WEBVTT 1 00:00:31.590 --> 00:00:32.548 Hello, everyone. 2 00:00:32.549 --> 00:00:34.079 Welcome to the Billy Wilder Theater. 3 00:00:34.080 --> 00:00:35.129 I'm Claudia Bestor. 4 00:00:35.130 --> 00:00:36.419 I'm the director of public programs 5 00:00:36.420 --> 00:00:37.979 here at the Hammer Museum. 6 00:00:37.980 --> 00:00:39.449 And it's my pleasure to welcome you 7 00:00:39.450 --> 00:00:40.919 all here tonight. 8 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:42.869 We're very honored to have Michelle 9 00:00:42.870 --> 00:00:44.519 Coltrane here tonight to speak about 10 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:46.140 her mother, Alice Coltrane, 11 00:00:47.160 --> 00:00:49.079 with musical selections performed 12 00:00:49.080 --> 00:00:51.179 by the brilliant harpist 13 00:00:51.180 --> 00:00:52.829 Brandee Younger. 14 00:00:52.830 --> 00:00:54.359 Tonight's performance is just one of 15 00:00:54.360 --> 00:00:56.189 many special performances at the 16 00:00:56.190 --> 00:00:57.509 Hammer Museum in conjunction with 17 00:00:57.510 --> 00:00:59.879 the glorious and timely exhibition 18 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:02.639 Alice Coltrane, Monument Eternal, 19 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:04.079 which is now on view in the museum 20 00:01:04.080 --> 00:01:05.909 galleries upstairs. 21 00:01:05.910 --> 00:01:07.889 The exhibition was curated by the 22 00:01:07.890 --> 00:01:10.319 brilliant curator, Erin Christovale, 23 00:01:10.320 --> 00:01:12.039 and she's going to come to the stage 24 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:13.739 to tell us more about the exhibition 25 00:01:13.740 --> 00:01:15.299 and tonight's performance. 26 00:01:15.300 --> 00:01:16.739 So please join me in giving her a 27 00:01:16.740 --> 00:01:17.970 very warm welcome. 28 00:01:28.630 --> 00:01:29.829 Hi, everyone. 29 00:01:31.390 --> 00:01:33.069 Yes, this is beautiful. 30 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:35.379 Thank you all for coming here 31 00:01:35.380 --> 00:01:38.259 tonight to experience 32 00:01:38.260 --> 00:01:40.479 what I think is a very 33 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:43.869 rare and incredible opportunity 34 00:01:43.870 --> 00:01:45.909 to hear about the legacy 35 00:01:45.910 --> 00:01:48.069 and story of Alice Coltrane 36 00:01:48.070 --> 00:01:49.659 through none other than her 37 00:01:49.660 --> 00:01:51.129 daughter. 38 00:01:51.130 --> 00:01:53.139 And as Claudia said, 39 00:01:53.140 --> 00:01:56.289 the amazing Brandee Younger, 40 00:01:56.290 --> 00:01:58.209 who is very much 41 00:01:58.210 --> 00:02:00.939 deeply influenced by Alice 42 00:02:00.940 --> 00:02:02.769 and continues the 43 00:02:02.770 --> 00:02:04.599 black girls harp legacy. 44 00:02:06.250 --> 00:02:07.659 I'm Erin Christovale. 45 00:02:07.660 --> 00:02:09.399 I'm the curator of the exhibition 46 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:11.409 Alice Coltrane, Monument Eternal. 47 00:02:12.670 --> 00:02:13.659 And I'm really. 48 00:02:13.660 --> 00:02:14.660 Thank you. 49 00:02:20.650 --> 00:02:22.479 And I'm really grateful 50 00:02:22.480 --> 00:02:24.399 to see all of you here. 51 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:26.319 And I hope you all have 52 00:02:26.320 --> 00:02:28.149 had an opportunity to see 53 00:02:28.150 --> 00:02:29.889 the exhibition. 54 00:02:29.890 --> 00:02:31.989 If you have been if you have not, 55 00:02:31.990 --> 00:02:33.999 it's up until May 4th. 56 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.309 And we have many, 57 00:02:36.310 --> 00:02:39.069 many, many programs and events 58 00:02:39.070 --> 00:02:40.070 to attend, 59 00:02:40.930 --> 00:02:43.179 one including 60 00:02:43.180 --> 00:02:45.109 every Sunday from 5 61 00:02:45.110 --> 00:02:46.269 to 6. 62 00:02:46.270 --> 00:02:48.249 We will have concerts 63 00:02:48.250 --> 00:02:49.419 in the galleries. 64 00:02:49.420 --> 00:02:51.519 And this is a series 65 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:53.049 called Turiya Rising that I 66 00:02:53.050 --> 00:02:54.879 programed with Ross Chait, who's in 67 00:02:54.880 --> 00:02:55.960 the audience here. 68 00:02:57.040 --> 00:02:58.899 So this upcoming Sunday, 69 00:02:58.900 --> 00:03:00.729 so this past Sunday, 70 00:03:00.730 --> 00:03:02.889 we had Brandee, which was our opener 71 00:03:02.890 --> 00:03:04.629 and absolutely stunning. 72 00:03:04.630 --> 00:03:06.579 And next Sunday, we 73 00:03:06.580 --> 00:03:08.799 actually have Michelle Coltrane 74 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:10.239 and her band, which is going to be 75 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:11.409 equally incredible. 76 00:03:11.410 --> 00:03:13.539 So please, please come 77 00:03:13.540 --> 00:03:14.540 for that. 78 00:03:16.330 --> 00:03:18.369 I'd love to introduce these 79 00:03:18.370 --> 00:03:20.409 two for this incredible 80 00:03:20.410 --> 00:03:22.359 oral history, so I'll just give 81 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:23.499 their brief bios. 82 00:03:25.090 --> 00:03:26.799 Michelle Coltrane is a vocalist, 83 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:28.929 composer and executive board member 84 00:03:28.930 --> 00:03:30.789 of the John and Alice Coltrane home 85 00:03:30.790 --> 00:03:32.139 and excels. 86 00:03:32.140 --> 00:03:33.969 Born in Paris, her immersion 87 00:03:33.970 --> 00:03:35.919 in music began at an early age 88 00:03:35.920 --> 00:03:38.109 with violin, viola clarinet 89 00:03:38.110 --> 00:03:40.029 lessons, as well as singing in the 90 00:03:40.030 --> 00:03:41.650 ashram led by her mother. 91 00:03:42.850 --> 00:03:44.439 Michelle began to travel around the 92 00:03:44.440 --> 00:03:46.209 world in her mid-twenties, deejaying 93 00:03:46.210 --> 00:03:48.129 in Japan and writing Color 94 00:03:48.130 --> 00:03:50.169 of the Night for the country's space 95 00:03:50.170 --> 00:03:52.539 world Amusing Amusement park. 96 00:03:52.540 --> 00:03:54.369 While in Tokyo, she explored talents 97 00:03:54.370 --> 00:03:56.559 as a voice actress and arranged 98 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:58.089 and performed background vocalists 99 00:03:58.090 --> 00:03:59.740 in studios around town. 100 00:04:01.870 --> 00:04:03.279 Let's see here. 101 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:05.109 In 1997, 102 00:04:05.110 --> 00:04:06.849 Michelle released her debut album, 103 00:04:06.850 --> 00:04:08.619 Think of You, in collaboration with 104 00:04:08.620 --> 00:04:11.109 Scott Hiltzik and saxophonist 105 00:04:11.110 --> 00:04:12.939 Ronnie Laws, which received 106 00:04:12.940 --> 00:04:14.769 a Yes award and was acclaimed 107 00:04:14.770 --> 00:04:16.389 by Jazz Times. 108 00:04:16.390 --> 00:04:18.369 In 2017, she released 109 00:04:18.370 --> 00:04:20.619 her sophomore album, Awakening, 110 00:04:20.620 --> 00:04:22.119 which was in the top ten of the 111 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:25.149 national jazz charts in 2017 112 00:04:25.150 --> 00:04:27.399 and garnered critical acclaim. 113 00:04:28.900 --> 00:04:30.939 Let's see here. 114 00:04:30.940 --> 00:04:32.859 The 11 song album on Blue 115 00:04:32.860 --> 00:04:34.779 Jazz Productions features 116 00:04:34.780 --> 00:04:36.579 collaborations with Miguel Atwood, 117 00:04:36.580 --> 00:04:38.589 Ferguson, Jerry Gibbs 118 00:04:38.590 --> 00:04:40.839 and Ravi Coltrane, her brother, 119 00:04:40.840 --> 00:04:43.539 and was co-produced by Sheryl Welsh. 120 00:04:43.540 --> 00:04:45.399 Presently, Michelle is chief 121 00:04:45.400 --> 00:04:47.409 creative officer at 122 00:04:47.410 --> 00:04:49.779 the John and Alice Coltrane home, 123 00:04:49.780 --> 00:04:51.609 the former residence of Michelle 124 00:04:51.610 --> 00:04:52.959 and her brothers and her late 125 00:04:52.960 --> 00:04:53.919 parents. 126 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.659 Michelle's goal is to continue 127 00:04:55.660 --> 00:04:57.879 performing recording music 128 00:04:57.880 --> 00:04:59.319 while supporting programs that 129 00:04:59.320 --> 00:05:01.269 elevate creative arts In 130 00:05:01.270 --> 00:05:02.169 all that she does. 131 00:05:02.170 --> 00:05:03.969 She continues to share the Coltrane 132 00:05:03.970 --> 00:05:06.009 family message of universal 133 00:05:06.010 --> 00:05:07.010 consciousness. 134 00:05:13.710 --> 00:05:16.139 Brandee Younger is revolution 135 00:05:16.140 --> 00:05:18.149 revolutionizing the Harp's role 136 00:05:18.150 --> 00:05:19.559 in modern music? 137 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:21.239 Over the past 15 years, she has 138 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:22.889 worked relentlessly to stretch 139 00:05:22.890 --> 00:05:24.629 boundaries and limitations for 140 00:05:24.630 --> 00:05:25.679 harpists. 141 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:27.569 In 2022, 142 00:05:27.570 --> 00:05:29.309 she made history by becoming the 143 00:05:29.310 --> 00:05:31.229 first black woman to be 144 00:05:31.230 --> 00:05:33.029 nominated for a Grammy Award for 145 00:05:33.030 --> 00:05:35.969 best instrumental Composition. 146 00:05:35.970 --> 00:05:37.679 That same year, she was also 147 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:39.959 nominated nominated for an 148 00:05:39.960 --> 00:05:41.789 ACP Image Award 149 00:05:41.790 --> 00:05:45.299 and later the winner of the 2024 150 00:05:45.300 --> 00:05:47.249 ACP Image Award in 151 00:05:47.250 --> 00:05:49.469 the category of outstanding jazz 152 00:05:49.470 --> 00:05:51.449 album for her album, Brand 153 00:05:51.450 --> 00:05:52.739 New Life. 154 00:05:52.740 --> 00:05:54.719 Ever expanding as an artist, she has 155 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:56.789 worked with cultural icons including 156 00:05:56.790 --> 00:05:58.739 Common, Lauryn Hill, John 157 00:05:58.740 --> 00:06:00.689 Legend, Pharoah Sanders and 158 00:06:00.690 --> 00:06:02.189 Christian McBride. 159 00:06:02.190 --> 00:06:04.589 Her original composition, Hortense, 160 00:06:04.590 --> 00:06:06.449 was featured in the Netflix concert 161 00:06:06.450 --> 00:06:08.036 documentary Beyoncé: Homecoming, 162 00:06:09.180 --> 00:06:11.069 and in 2019, Brandee was 163 00:06:11.070 --> 00:06:12.719 selected to perform her original 164 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:14.879 music as a featured performer 165 00:06:14.880 --> 00:06:16.859 for Quincy Jones and Steve 166 00:06:16.860 --> 00:06:19.649 McQueen. Soundtrack of America. 167 00:06:19.650 --> 00:06:21.629 Brandee is often noted for standing 168 00:06:21.630 --> 00:06:23.399 on the shoulders of the very woman 169 00:06:23.400 --> 00:06:25.739 who ushered in the harp as a clear 170 00:06:25.740 --> 00:06:27.689 and distinct voice in jazz and 171 00:06:27.690 --> 00:06:30.179 popular styles, particularly 172 00:06:30.180 --> 00:06:32.189 Detroit native such as Dorothy 173 00:06:32.190 --> 00:06:34.050 Ashby and Alice Coltrane. 174 00:06:35.280 --> 00:06:36.959 Younger's music is imbued with a 175 00:06:36.960 --> 00:06:38.909 sense of purpose and respect 176 00:06:38.910 --> 00:06:41.129 of legacy, creating a larger 177 00:06:41.130 --> 00:06:42.989 platform for the harp to reach 178 00:06:42.990 --> 00:06:45.299 newer and wider audiences 179 00:06:45.300 --> 00:06:47.009 than ever before. 180 00:06:47.010 --> 00:06:48.869 Please welcome me in introducing 181 00:06:48.870 --> 00:06:50.309 Brandee Younger and Michelle 182 00:06:50.310 --> 00:06:51.310 Coltrane. 183 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:18.379 Om Shanti. 184 00:07:18.380 --> 00:07:20.479 And hello to everyone. 185 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:22.579 In honor of my mother's practice, 186 00:07:22.580 --> 00:07:25.189 I'd like to begin this presentation 187 00:07:25.190 --> 00:07:26.269 with three. 188 00:07:26.270 --> 00:07:27.709 Please join me if you like. 189 00:07:29.810 --> 00:07:30.810 Om. Om. Om. 190 00:08:01.130 --> 00:08:03.829 When we think of transcendence, 191 00:08:03.830 --> 00:08:05.779 we most often think in terms 192 00:08:05.780 --> 00:08:07.429 of moments. 193 00:08:07.430 --> 00:08:09.589 Alice Coltrane built a life towards 194 00:08:09.590 --> 00:08:11.659 transcendence, marked 195 00:08:11.660 --> 00:08:13.879 by devotion, self-discipline, 196 00:08:13.880 --> 00:08:16.460 bravery and profound creativity. 197 00:08:17.650 --> 00:08:18.669 In this program. 198 00:08:18.670 --> 00:08:20.589 It is my honor and great pleasure to 199 00:08:20.590 --> 00:08:22.749 speak to you about my mother's life 200 00:08:22.750 --> 00:08:23.750 and legacy. 201 00:08:24.530 --> 00:08:27.649 My my view of my mother is singular 202 00:08:27.650 --> 00:08:28.879 in all things for me. 203 00:08:28.880 --> 00:08:30.859 She was my mother first, 204 00:08:30.860 --> 00:08:32.209 but she had many roles. 205 00:08:32.210 --> 00:08:34.189 And so I may refer to her 206 00:08:34.190 --> 00:08:36.019 as mother Alice 207 00:08:36.020 --> 00:08:37.009 McCloud. 208 00:08:37.010 --> 00:08:38.960 Alice Coltrane or 209 00:08:40.520 --> 00:08:41.520 Turiyasangitananda. 210 00:08:43.150 --> 00:08:45.189 Detroit was home for Alice. 211 00:08:45.190 --> 00:08:46.899 She had two brothers, Jack and 212 00:08:46.900 --> 00:08:49.539 Ernie, and was one of four sisters 213 00:08:49.540 --> 00:08:51.729 with Margaret, Joanne and Marilyn. 214 00:08:58.540 --> 00:09:00.209 Are pictures with us. 215 00:09:00.210 --> 00:09:01.709 They grew up on the east side of 216 00:09:01.710 --> 00:09:04.350 Motor City in the 1940s. 217 00:09:05.770 --> 00:09:07.959 That looks like the 218 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:08.749 after that. Yeah. 219 00:09:08.750 --> 00:09:09.729 There we go. 220 00:09:09.730 --> 00:09:11.199 They grew up on the east side of the 221 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.899 Motor City in the 1940s. 222 00:09:13.900 --> 00:09:16.059 Each Sunday, the family attended 223 00:09:16.060 --> 00:09:18.789 Mount Olive Baptist Church. 224 00:09:18.790 --> 00:09:20.259 Alice was playing organ for the 225 00:09:20.260 --> 00:09:22.389 choir at nine years old. 226 00:09:22.390 --> 00:09:24.159 The whole congregation would bear 227 00:09:24.160 --> 00:09:26.679 witness to the beginnings 228 00:09:26.680 --> 00:09:29.079 of her spiritual ascent. 229 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:30.879 The small amount of money she earned 230 00:09:30.880 --> 00:09:32.469 went to the family. 231 00:09:32.470 --> 00:09:34.209 They were eight people living in a 232 00:09:34.210 --> 00:09:36.069 small apartment. 233 00:09:36.070 --> 00:09:37.989 At bedtime, Alice and her sister 234 00:09:37.990 --> 00:09:40.239 slept in a bedroom. 235 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:42.069 Brothers in the kitchen and 236 00:09:42.070 --> 00:09:44.019 parents. Annie and Solon 237 00:09:44.020 --> 00:09:45.190 in the living room. 238 00:09:46.930 --> 00:09:49.059 She said they were a happy family 239 00:09:49.060 --> 00:09:51.039 and this small space felt 240 00:09:51.040 --> 00:09:52.040 normal. 241 00:09:53.140 --> 00:09:55.929 Alice was a self-taught musician. 242 00:09:55.930 --> 00:09:57.249 Her parents could not afford a 243 00:09:57.250 --> 00:09:58.179 piano. 244 00:09:58.180 --> 00:10:00.609 So Mrs. Phil Pott, a neighbor 245 00:10:00.610 --> 00:10:02.799 in the building who had a piano 246 00:10:02.800 --> 00:10:04.689 in her unit, gave 247 00:10:04.690 --> 00:10:07.119 young Alice some rudimentary 248 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.039 piano instruction. 249 00:10:09.040 --> 00:10:10.929 I was told that for years Mother 250 00:10:10.930 --> 00:10:12.009 would be seen in the window 251 00:10:12.010 --> 00:10:13.959 practicing while all the other 252 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:15.759 children outside were playing in the 253 00:10:15.760 --> 00:10:16.760 courtyard. 254 00:10:17.890 --> 00:10:19.929 Her musical talent and dedication 255 00:10:19.930 --> 00:10:22.239 to the craft blossomed quickly. 256 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.399 By the late 1950s, now 257 00:10:24.400 --> 00:10:26.439 21 years old, Alice 258 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.659 traveled to Paris, France, following 259 00:10:28.660 --> 00:10:30.999 her dream of becoming a professional 260 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:32.799 jazz musician. 261 00:10:32.800 --> 00:10:34.509 Next, we'll see an early video of 262 00:10:34.510 --> 00:10:35.619 her playing. 263 00:10:35.620 --> 00:10:37.449 There's no arguing the strength of 264 00:10:37.450 --> 00:10:39.459 her talent and the hard work 265 00:10:39.460 --> 00:10:41.589 she puts into mastering 266 00:10:41.590 --> 00:10:42.590 her instrument. 267 00:14:05.870 --> 00:14:06.870 You. 268 00:14:12.060 --> 00:14:13.799 She studied in Paris with the 269 00:14:13.800 --> 00:14:15.689 legendary pianist and 270 00:14:15.690 --> 00:14:18.239 bebop pioneer Bud Powell. 271 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:19.949 During this time, she got a gig at 272 00:14:19.950 --> 00:14:21.989 the renowned Blue Note Jazz Club, 273 00:14:21.990 --> 00:14:24.449 playing during intermissions 274 00:14:24.450 --> 00:14:26.189 before leaving Detroit. 275 00:14:26.190 --> 00:14:28.079 My grandmother's wish was 276 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.239 that her daughter be wed before 277 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:32.459 she traveled overseas. 278 00:14:32.460 --> 00:14:34.859 In that era, this was not considered 279 00:14:34.860 --> 00:14:37.799 an unreasonable expectation. 280 00:14:37.800 --> 00:14:40.259 So Alice married fellow musician. 281 00:14:40.260 --> 00:14:41.339 Detroiter. 282 00:14:41.340 --> 00:14:43.409 Pianist and vocalist 283 00:14:43.410 --> 00:14:45.809 Kenny Poncho Haygood. 284 00:14:47.420 --> 00:14:49.490 He is a he played with 285 00:14:50.570 --> 00:14:51.559 as a vocalist. 286 00:14:51.560 --> 00:14:53.299 He performed with Dizzy Gillespie 287 00:14:53.300 --> 00:14:55.729 Orchestra from 1946 288 00:14:55.730 --> 00:14:57.859 through 1948 and 289 00:14:57.860 --> 00:15:00.439 was featured on Miles Davis 290 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:02.359 legendary album, Birth 291 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:03.360 of the Cool. 292 00:15:04.420 --> 00:15:06.519 The track was called Darn that 293 00:15:06.520 --> 00:15:07.520 Dream. 294 00:15:08.030 --> 00:15:09.739 Alice came back to Detroit when the 295 00:15:09.740 --> 00:15:12.079 marriage to Haygood didn't pan out. 296 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:13.969 She returned to the States 297 00:15:13.970 --> 00:15:15.679 with a little surprise. 298 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:21.549 Her daughter Michelle, was 299 00:15:21.550 --> 00:15:23.649 born in Paris. 300 00:15:23.650 --> 00:15:25.479 Alice got right to work upon her 301 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:27.429 return, letting neither the burden 302 00:15:27.430 --> 00:15:28.929 of divorce nor the demands of 303 00:15:28.930 --> 00:15:30.969 motherhood stop her. 304 00:15:30.970 --> 00:15:33.429 She played all over town and outside 305 00:15:33.430 --> 00:15:35.559 of Detroit in her duo 306 00:15:35.560 --> 00:15:37.449 with African-American female 307 00:15:37.450 --> 00:15:39.669 jazz vibraphonist Terry 308 00:15:39.670 --> 00:15:40.869 Pollard. 309 00:15:40.870 --> 00:15:43.029 Pictured here with Terry Gibbs. 310 00:15:44.050 --> 00:15:46.359 Another vibraphonist who would play 311 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:48.669 a very important role 312 00:15:48.670 --> 00:15:50.739 in Alice's musical life later 313 00:15:50.740 --> 00:15:51.740 on. 314 00:15:53.560 --> 00:15:55.479 My mother's reputation with her own 315 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:57.999 trio was growing too, notably 316 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.369 in New York City, the world's jazz 317 00:16:00.370 --> 00:16:01.719 Mecca. 318 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:03.369 Getting noticed as a pianist in New 319 00:16:03.370 --> 00:16:05.169 York City, she joined the ranks with 320 00:16:05.170 --> 00:16:07.659 Top Call female musicians 321 00:16:07.660 --> 00:16:09.579 Nina Simone, Mary Lou 322 00:16:09.580 --> 00:16:11.439 Williams, Blossom Dearie, 323 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:13.299 Mary McPartland, Dinah 324 00:16:13.300 --> 00:16:15.129 Washington, along with other 325 00:16:15.130 --> 00:16:16.989 soon to be icons 326 00:16:16.990 --> 00:16:19.149 Laura Nyro, Carole 327 00:16:19.150 --> 00:16:21.699 King, Joni Mitchell 328 00:16:21.700 --> 00:16:23.679 and Miriam Makeba were 329 00:16:23.680 --> 00:16:25.629 among some of the many incredible 330 00:16:25.630 --> 00:16:27.549 women making strides 331 00:16:27.550 --> 00:16:29.649 in music at that time. 332 00:16:32.020 --> 00:16:33.789 Alice rented an apartment in the 333 00:16:33.790 --> 00:16:35.649 Chelsea area of Manhattan at 334 00:16:35.650 --> 00:16:37.299 820 one Sixth Avenue. 335 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:41.109 It was a five storey loft building. 336 00:16:41.110 --> 00:16:42.939 It was going to say Walker. 337 00:16:42.940 --> 00:16:44.919 Turns out that saxophonist Joe 338 00:16:44.920 --> 00:16:46.779 Henderson lived at the same 339 00:16:46.780 --> 00:16:47.829 address. 340 00:16:47.830 --> 00:16:49.689 He and Alice would collaborate 341 00:16:49.690 --> 00:16:50.949 throughout the next couple of 342 00:16:50.950 --> 00:16:52.449 decades. 343 00:16:52.450 --> 00:16:54.639 While in New York, she was hired 344 00:16:54.640 --> 00:16:56.289 by Terry Gibbs. 345 00:16:56.290 --> 00:16:58.179 He told me he was 346 00:16:58.180 --> 00:17:00.819 in search of a female pianist 347 00:17:00.820 --> 00:17:03.279 to join his quartet at the time. 348 00:17:03.280 --> 00:17:04.900 Terry described the audition. 349 00:17:05.940 --> 00:17:07.709 It was brief. 350 00:17:07.710 --> 00:17:09.568 He quickly knew he had what he 351 00:17:09.569 --> 00:17:11.159 was looking for. 352 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:12.179 It was during one of these 353 00:17:12.180 --> 00:17:14.009 performances playing with 354 00:17:14.010 --> 00:17:15.868 Gibbs at Birdland 355 00:17:15.869 --> 00:17:17.939 that she met John Coltrane. 356 00:17:19.810 --> 00:17:23.348 John and Alice married in 1965. 357 00:17:23.349 --> 00:17:25.509 By 1967, 358 00:17:25.510 --> 00:17:27.309 we were a family of six living in 359 00:17:27.310 --> 00:17:29.019 our Long Island home. 360 00:17:29.020 --> 00:17:30.189 The house was filled with 361 00:17:30.190 --> 00:17:32.199 instruments of all kinds. 362 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.599 We had a koto from Japan, 363 00:17:34.600 --> 00:17:36.519 a sitar from India, 364 00:17:36.520 --> 00:17:37.930 and even bagpipes. 365 00:17:39.350 --> 00:17:40.399 There was a state of the art 366 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.319 recording studio being built in our 367 00:17:42.320 --> 00:17:43.689 home. 368 00:17:43.690 --> 00:17:45.639 Sadly, our father did not 369 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:48.129 live to see its completion. 370 00:17:48.130 --> 00:17:50.919 On March 19th, 1967, 371 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:52.449 my youngest brother, Oranian 372 00:17:52.450 --> 00:17:54.529 Coltrane, was born. 373 00:17:54.530 --> 00:17:56.329 Our father passed away just four 374 00:17:56.330 --> 00:17:58.460 months later on July 17th. 375 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:02.759 Shortly before his death, he 376 00:18:02.760 --> 00:18:04.589 ordered a concert harp 377 00:18:04.590 --> 00:18:06.749 for Alice from Lyon and Healy 378 00:18:06.750 --> 00:18:08.399 based in Chicago. 379 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:10.409 This concert, harp model number 380 00:18:10.410 --> 00:18:12.689 11, was a beautiful, golden 381 00:18:12.690 --> 00:18:14.100 handmade instrument 382 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:17.549 and unfortunately arrived. 383 00:18:17.550 --> 00:18:19.199 It arrived after our father's 384 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:20.279 passing. 385 00:18:20.280 --> 00:18:21.779 This instrument would become a 386 00:18:21.780 --> 00:18:23.489 centerpiece of the next phase of 387 00:18:23.490 --> 00:18:25.769 Alice's life and career. 388 00:18:27.230 --> 00:18:29.299 Despite their short, earthly time 389 00:18:29.300 --> 00:18:31.159 together, John and Alice 390 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:33.829 shared deep experiences that shifted 391 00:18:33.830 --> 00:18:36.589 and expanded their perspectives. 392 00:18:36.590 --> 00:18:38.329 They were two artists together, 393 00:18:38.330 --> 00:18:40.009 inspiring new approaches to 394 00:18:40.010 --> 00:18:41.989 spirituality and 395 00:18:41.990 --> 00:18:43.849 faith through their music. 396 00:18:47.580 --> 00:18:49.589 John Coltrane's funeral took place 397 00:18:49.590 --> 00:18:51.449 at St Peter's Lutheran 398 00:18:51.450 --> 00:18:53.669 Church in midtown Manhattan 399 00:18:53.670 --> 00:18:57.359 on July 21st, 1967. 400 00:18:57.360 --> 00:18:59.099 The British newspaper The Guardian 401 00:18:59.100 --> 00:19:01.529 called it the most iconic 402 00:19:01.530 --> 00:19:03.359 sendoff in jazz 403 00:19:03.360 --> 00:19:04.529 history. 404 00:19:04.530 --> 00:19:06.569 Pastor John Garcia 405 00:19:06.570 --> 00:19:08.429 Genzel, a staple 406 00:19:08.430 --> 00:19:09.629 of the New York jazz scene, 407 00:19:09.630 --> 00:19:11.549 delivered an electric sermon 408 00:19:11.550 --> 00:19:13.349 that no one in the room would soon 409 00:19:13.350 --> 00:19:14.350 forget. 410 00:19:14.830 --> 00:19:16.569 It was the music, however, that made 411 00:19:16.570 --> 00:19:18.099 this celebration of his life 412 00:19:18.100 --> 00:19:19.679 historic. 413 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:21.539 To the open of the 414 00:19:21.540 --> 00:19:22.889 to the opening of the Sérum 415 00:19:22.890 --> 00:19:23.729 ceremony. 416 00:19:23.730 --> 00:19:25.799 Free jazz luminary 417 00:19:25.800 --> 00:19:27.839 Albert Ayler delivered a limitless 418 00:19:27.840 --> 00:19:29.669 version of our 419 00:19:29.670 --> 00:19:31.019 prayer. 420 00:19:31.020 --> 00:19:32.759 The ceremony closed with a 421 00:19:32.760 --> 00:19:34.589 performance by Ornette Coleman 422 00:19:34.590 --> 00:19:36.479 Quartet, another 423 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:38.129 artist like Ayler, and of course, 424 00:19:38.130 --> 00:19:39.959 like John, that would 425 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:41.819 impact the shape of jazz to come. 426 00:19:45.500 --> 00:19:47.569 Again. My mother returned to Detroit 427 00:19:47.570 --> 00:19:49.489 home base to be 428 00:19:49.490 --> 00:19:50.659 with her sisters. 429 00:19:50.660 --> 00:19:52.519 The McLeod's surrounded 430 00:19:52.520 --> 00:19:54.469 and protected her with love 431 00:19:54.470 --> 00:19:56.659 and a barrier of support. 432 00:19:56.660 --> 00:19:58.159 They lend helping hands with the 433 00:19:58.160 --> 00:19:59.629 children. 434 00:19:59.630 --> 00:20:01.699 The impact of the loss of our father 435 00:20:01.700 --> 00:20:02.700 was devastating. 436 00:20:04.030 --> 00:20:05.979 She started having 437 00:20:05.980 --> 00:20:07.959 insomnia visions, an 438 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:10.089 alarming weight loss at barely 439 00:20:10.090 --> 00:20:10.929 30 years old. 440 00:20:10.930 --> 00:20:12.549 She was a widow with four children 441 00:20:12.550 --> 00:20:14.439 between four months and 442 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:16.449 six years of age. 443 00:20:16.450 --> 00:20:18.279 Life where my mom must have felt 444 00:20:18.280 --> 00:20:20.319 overwhelming, like facing 445 00:20:20.320 --> 00:20:21.550 an uphill battle. 446 00:20:23.600 --> 00:20:25.699 Despite this crisis, 447 00:20:25.700 --> 00:20:27.409 despite the crisis and awful 448 00:20:27.410 --> 00:20:29.389 circumstances, Alice did 449 00:20:29.390 --> 00:20:31.459 not succumb. In fact, this 450 00:20:31.460 --> 00:20:33.349 crossroads proved to 451 00:20:33.350 --> 00:20:34.789 be one of the most creatively 452 00:20:34.790 --> 00:20:37.249 awakening and spiritually productive 453 00:20:37.250 --> 00:20:38.960 moments in her life. 454 00:20:40.350 --> 00:20:41.909 She completed the construction of 455 00:20:41.910 --> 00:20:43.919 the home studio after 456 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:45.869 John's death with Roy 457 00:20:45.870 --> 00:20:47.369 Mug snug. 458 00:20:49.190 --> 00:20:50.869 Who would become the engineer for 459 00:20:50.870 --> 00:20:52.969 many of her albums. 460 00:20:52.970 --> 00:20:54.919 Alice recorded six albums in 461 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:57.029 the Coltrane home studio between 462 00:20:57.030 --> 00:21:00.139 1967 and 1971, 463 00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:02.089 beginning with Cosmic Music, a 464 00:21:02.090 --> 00:21:03.919 collaborative record with John 465 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:05.930 released after his passing. 466 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:09.949 Cosmic music is a first 467 00:21:09.950 --> 00:21:11.150 in so many ways. 468 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:14.659 The first tracks my mother and 469 00:21:14.660 --> 00:21:15.949 father recorded together. 470 00:21:17.080 --> 00:21:18.969 It was also the first album 471 00:21:18.970 --> 00:21:20.919 released on my parents 472 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:22.899 Coltrane recording company 473 00:21:22.900 --> 00:21:24.369 label. 474 00:21:24.370 --> 00:21:25.719 Later. It marked the beginning of 475 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:28.749 her relationship with Impulse 476 00:21:28.750 --> 00:21:29.750 Records. 477 00:21:30.630 --> 00:21:32.459 They approached her to rerelease 478 00:21:32.460 --> 00:21:34.409 Cosmic Music, which led to 479 00:21:34.410 --> 00:21:36.659 an incredibly fruitful business 480 00:21:36.660 --> 00:21:37.660 relationship. 481 00:21:38.590 --> 00:21:39.489 Cosmic music. 482 00:21:39.490 --> 00:21:41.679 Is Alice transcending? 483 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:45.889 A monastic trio. 484 00:21:45.890 --> 00:21:47.989 Alice's first record as a leader 485 00:21:47.990 --> 00:21:50.269 and composer with Impulse 486 00:21:50.270 --> 00:21:52.469 was recorded primarily on June 487 00:21:52.470 --> 00:21:54.949 6th, 1968. 488 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:58.809 With the exception of only the route 489 00:21:58.810 --> 00:22:00.400 recorded earlier that year. 490 00:22:01.710 --> 00:22:03.209 Think for a moment about this. 491 00:22:03.210 --> 00:22:05.399 A young mother insisting 492 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:07.379 on making her own music in her own 493 00:22:07.380 --> 00:22:09.269 home, having some of the 494 00:22:09.270 --> 00:22:11.249 most well-regarded musicians 495 00:22:11.250 --> 00:22:14.249 of the era come out to Long Island. 496 00:22:14.250 --> 00:22:15.749 These sessions explored and 497 00:22:15.750 --> 00:22:17.939 stretched the boundaries of jazz 498 00:22:17.940 --> 00:22:19.349 forms. 499 00:22:19.350 --> 00:22:21.179 All of these A-list players 500 00:22:21.180 --> 00:22:23.099 had worked with Sean as well, 501 00:22:23.100 --> 00:22:25.829 creating a beautiful continuity. 502 00:22:25.830 --> 00:22:27.719 Alice debuts her harp 503 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.149 playing on the original piece Lovely 504 00:22:30.150 --> 00:22:31.150 Sky Boat. 505 00:22:33.460 --> 00:22:35.499 Huntington Ashram Monastery 506 00:22:35.500 --> 00:22:37.329 was the next album recorded at 507 00:22:37.330 --> 00:22:39.529 the Coltrane studio on May 508 00:22:39.530 --> 00:22:42.099 14th, 1969, 509 00:22:42.100 --> 00:22:44.829 with Rashid Ali on drums 510 00:22:44.830 --> 00:22:46.869 and the phenomenal Ron Carter 511 00:22:46.870 --> 00:22:47.870 on bass. 512 00:22:48.980 --> 00:22:50.959 Carter's magical tone 513 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:53.089 and harmonic ear allowed the music 514 00:22:53.090 --> 00:22:55.039 to stretch and express with 515 00:22:55.040 --> 00:22:56.929 a new freedom, 516 00:22:56.930 --> 00:22:58.429 my mother explains in the liner 517 00:22:58.430 --> 00:23:00.739 notes, Ashram means 518 00:23:00.740 --> 00:23:02.209 hermitage. 519 00:23:02.210 --> 00:23:05.059 It's sometimes spelled Asrama. 520 00:23:05.060 --> 00:23:07.459 Of the many humanly constructed 521 00:23:07.460 --> 00:23:09.619 ashrams and monasteries 522 00:23:09.620 --> 00:23:10.849 throughout the world. 523 00:23:10.850 --> 00:23:12.709 I feel that the real ashram 524 00:23:12.710 --> 00:23:14.359 is in your heart. 525 00:23:14.360 --> 00:23:16.339 These are words my mother lived by, 526 00:23:16.340 --> 00:23:18.649 and they foreshadow the founding 527 00:23:18.650 --> 00:23:20.420 of her own ashram. 528 00:23:24.390 --> 00:23:25.679 Pata. 529 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.539 The El Daoud was recorded on 530 00:23:27.540 --> 00:23:29.579 January 26th, 531 00:23:29.580 --> 00:23:31.469 1970 with my 532 00:23:31.470 --> 00:23:33.089 mother on piano and harp. 533 00:23:33.090 --> 00:23:35.099 Pharoah Sanders and Joe Henderson 534 00:23:35.100 --> 00:23:36.779 on saxophones. 535 00:23:36.780 --> 00:23:38.759 Ben Riley on drums and 536 00:23:38.760 --> 00:23:40.979 Ron Carter on bass. 537 00:23:40.980 --> 00:23:44.219 This album is a synthesis, 538 00:23:44.220 --> 00:23:46.409 synthesis 539 00:23:46.410 --> 00:23:48.479 of the many musical elements 540 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:49.680 in my mother's life. 541 00:23:51.110 --> 00:23:52.999 The home studio plays an important 542 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:55.009 role in this recording. 543 00:23:55.010 --> 00:23:56.659 Alice explained in the liner notes 544 00:23:56.660 --> 00:23:58.639 her decision to have Sanders 545 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:01.069 more transcendental performances 546 00:24:01.070 --> 00:24:03.379 on the right channel of the stereo 547 00:24:03.380 --> 00:24:05.689 landscape, with Henderson's 548 00:24:05.690 --> 00:24:07.969 intellectual side occupying 549 00:24:07.970 --> 00:24:09.469 the left. 550 00:24:09.470 --> 00:24:11.539 This organization of sound aids 551 00:24:11.540 --> 00:24:13.639 in the creation of an atmosphere. 552 00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:15.559 She explains how the album 553 00:24:15.560 --> 00:24:17.539 achieves a state 554 00:24:17.540 --> 00:24:19.069 of consciousness. 555 00:24:19.070 --> 00:24:21.439 The High State of Nirvana. 556 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:23.240 The Goal of Human Life. 557 00:24:29.040 --> 00:24:31.049 Journey in such a Dananjaya is 558 00:24:31.050 --> 00:24:32.939 an iconic achievement. 559 00:24:32.940 --> 00:24:35.760 Recorded on November 8th, 1970. 560 00:24:36.780 --> 00:24:38.939 53 years later, journey 561 00:24:38.940 --> 00:24:40.889 in Sergeant Ananda is as 562 00:24:40.890 --> 00:24:42.929 relevant as it's ever 563 00:24:42.930 --> 00:24:44.159 been. 564 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.109 The album resonates with listeners 565 00:24:46.110 --> 00:24:48.029 of all ages, both musically 566 00:24:48.030 --> 00:24:50.039 and spiritually. 567 00:24:50.040 --> 00:24:51.989 It was named one of Rolling Stone's 568 00:24:51.990 --> 00:24:53.999 500 greatest albums of all 569 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.239 time in 2023. 570 00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:58.240 But. 571 00:25:06.310 --> 00:25:08.259 On this record, Alice plays 572 00:25:08.260 --> 00:25:10.509 piano and harp with Pharoah Sanders 573 00:25:10.510 --> 00:25:12.369 on soprano saxophone 574 00:25:12.370 --> 00:25:13.629 and percussion. 575 00:25:13.630 --> 00:25:15.729 Cecil McBee and Charlie Haden 576 00:25:15.730 --> 00:25:17.589 on bass, Rashid 577 00:25:17.590 --> 00:25:19.719 Ali on drums, Vishnu 578 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.029 Wood on the edge, Majid 579 00:25:22.030 --> 00:25:24.579 Shabazz on bells and tambourine 580 00:25:24.580 --> 00:25:27.849 and Tulsi on timbre. 581 00:25:27.850 --> 00:25:30.549 Alice expanded her musical horizons 582 00:25:30.550 --> 00:25:32.109 with the addition of a unique 583 00:25:33.460 --> 00:25:35.589 blend of instruments and a focus 584 00:25:35.590 --> 00:25:37.719 on American jazz with Eastern 585 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:39.789 spiritual tonalities. 586 00:25:41.490 --> 00:25:43.049 She composed the music after 587 00:25:43.050 --> 00:25:45.089 traveling to India and studying 588 00:25:45.090 --> 00:25:47.039 with Swami Sachi 589 00:25:47.040 --> 00:25:49.169 and under a respected guru 590 00:25:49.170 --> 00:25:51.509 and Hatha yoga teacher 591 00:25:51.510 --> 00:25:52.510 master 592 00:25:53.340 --> 00:25:54.869 as his student. 593 00:25:54.870 --> 00:25:56.939 She absorbed Eastern spiritual 594 00:25:56.940 --> 00:25:58.949 and musical traditions 595 00:25:58.950 --> 00:26:01.049 diligently with her whole being. 596 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.609 The resulting recording was 597 00:26:04.610 --> 00:26:06.769 profound and remains 598 00:26:06.770 --> 00:26:08.569 a relevant to a listening 599 00:26:08.570 --> 00:26:09.589 experience. 600 00:26:12.190 --> 00:26:14.199 Universal consciousness. 601 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:16.419 Alice Alice's fifth album 602 00:26:16.420 --> 00:26:18.399 as leader features two 603 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:20.709 pieces from the home battle 604 00:26:20.710 --> 00:26:22.609 at Armageddon and the anchor of 605 00:26:22.610 --> 00:26:24.499 Amen Ron were recorded on June 606 00:26:24.500 --> 00:26:27.489 4th, 1971, 607 00:26:27.490 --> 00:26:29.529 on Battle of Armageddon. 608 00:26:29.530 --> 00:26:31.479 Alice on Oregon and 609 00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:34.029 Rasheed Ali on drums explore 610 00:26:34.030 --> 00:26:36.429 a sweeping landscape of sound 611 00:26:36.430 --> 00:26:38.289 in which Alice translates 612 00:26:38.290 --> 00:26:40.149 her spiritual journey through music. 613 00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:43.079 She once told me that 614 00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:45.239 John had suggested to her, 615 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:47.609 why not use all of the keyboard? 616 00:26:47.610 --> 00:26:49.529 And so particularly 617 00:26:49.530 --> 00:26:51.659 on this album, she did. 618 00:26:51.660 --> 00:26:53.789 This recording truly uses the entire 619 00:26:53.790 --> 00:26:55.619 keyboard referencing 620 00:26:55.620 --> 00:26:57.449 Eastern melodic intervals 621 00:26:57.450 --> 00:26:59.639 with gospel overtones. 622 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:01.679 Of course, her jazz chops prevail 623 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:02.680 throughout. 624 00:27:04.110 --> 00:27:05.729 These recordings made history. 625 00:27:05.730 --> 00:27:07.589 Meanwhile, Alice not 626 00:27:07.590 --> 00:27:09.989 only continue to head a household 627 00:27:09.990 --> 00:27:11.999 of young children, she 628 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.159 was also navigating an enormous 629 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:16.649 career as a bandleader 630 00:27:16.650 --> 00:27:19.079 on a major music label 631 00:27:19.080 --> 00:27:21.029 in a time when she two 632 00:27:21.030 --> 00:27:23.219 female instrumentalists 633 00:27:23.220 --> 00:27:25.259 were in this position, she 634 00:27:25.260 --> 00:27:27.359 represented black women's freedom 635 00:27:27.360 --> 00:27:29.189 to cultivate, compose 636 00:27:29.190 --> 00:27:32.399 and produce experimental music. 637 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.769 Alice communicated the truth 638 00:27:34.770 --> 00:27:36.959 of the artist's heart to each 639 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:38.940 and every listener. 640 00:27:42.730 --> 00:27:44.829 She set forth on a monumental 641 00:27:44.830 --> 00:27:46.809 quest to put aside the 642 00:27:46.810 --> 00:27:48.819 loss and pain 643 00:27:48.820 --> 00:27:51.249 of the human condition 644 00:27:51.250 --> 00:27:52.509 through her deep belief and 645 00:27:52.510 --> 00:27:54.999 commitment to God, consciousness 646 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.339 and the study of the East and 647 00:27:57.340 --> 00:27:59.380 the East Indian philosophies. 648 00:28:01.280 --> 00:28:03.109 She prepared to search 649 00:28:03.110 --> 00:28:04.849 for higher meaning? 650 00:28:04.850 --> 00:28:06.649 That is how she walked through the 651 00:28:06.650 --> 00:28:08.810 fire and transcended. 652 00:28:10.800 --> 00:28:12.749 We began here today, referencing 653 00:28:12.750 --> 00:28:15.149 my mother's transcendence 654 00:28:15.150 --> 00:28:17.399 in the face of tragedy 655 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.469 and her ability to exercise 656 00:28:19.470 --> 00:28:22.019 her authentic, creative voice 657 00:28:22.020 --> 00:28:23.759 while taking care of her family and 658 00:28:23.760 --> 00:28:26.009 attending to matters 659 00:28:26.010 --> 00:28:27.010 of business. 660 00:28:28.830 --> 00:28:30.689 In the 1970s, 661 00:28:30.690 --> 00:28:32.819 Alice had honed 662 00:28:32.820 --> 00:28:34.979 the translational craft 663 00:28:34.980 --> 00:28:37.049 of expressing God and spiritual 664 00:28:37.050 --> 00:28:38.640 understanding through music. 665 00:28:39.940 --> 00:28:42.459 The music speaks for itself. 666 00:28:42.460 --> 00:28:43.599 So it's my pleasure. 667 00:28:45.420 --> 00:28:47.309 To introduce. 668 00:28:47.310 --> 00:28:48.329 Brandee Younger. 669 00:28:53.460 --> 00:28:55.409 She's going to perform a piece from 670 00:28:55.410 --> 00:28:57.480 the album. But I feel, though. 671 00:29:01.620 --> 00:29:02.669 She's going to play Turiya, 672 00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:03.509 Ramakrishna. 673 00:29:03.510 --> 00:29:05.099 Turiya and Ramakrishna. 674 00:33:37.670 --> 00:33:38.670 Yes! 675 00:33:48.170 --> 00:33:49.459 The harp lives. 676 00:33:49.460 --> 00:33:50.460 It lives. 677 00:33:53.040 --> 00:33:54.040 Beautiful. 678 00:34:06.060 --> 00:34:07.979 Swami Satchidananda gave my 679 00:34:07.980 --> 00:34:10.649 mother her first spiritual name, 680 00:34:10.650 --> 00:34:12.569 Aparna, one of 681 00:34:12.570 --> 00:34:14.519 the names of the Hindu goddess 682 00:34:14.520 --> 00:34:15.520 Pavarti. 683 00:34:16.139 --> 00:34:17.999 She later would receive a second 684 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:19.139 spiritual name. 685 00:34:21.510 --> 00:34:23.698 Turiyasangitananda, which was given 686 00:34:23.699 --> 00:34:25.559 in meditation from 687 00:34:25.560 --> 00:34:26.560 Lord Rama. 688 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.309 She details the experience in 689 00:34:29.310 --> 00:34:31.198 her book Monument 690 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:32.609 Eternal. 691 00:34:32.610 --> 00:34:34.529 Shakeri Adams, author 692 00:34:34.530 --> 00:34:35.879 of the biography. 693 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:38.879 Portrait of devotion. 694 00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:40.919 Described in the evolution 695 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:41.920 of Alice. 696 00:34:42.909 --> 00:34:44.859 The evolution of Alice into 697 00:34:44.860 --> 00:34:46.479 Turiya as follows. 698 00:34:47.510 --> 00:34:49.428 During Alice's initiation 699 00:34:49.429 --> 00:34:51.379 ceremony, the Lord 700 00:34:51.380 --> 00:34:53.359 conferred the highest blessing 701 00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:54.678 upon Turiya. 702 00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:56.839 The Lord said, Receive 703 00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:58.429 the sacred emblem of your 704 00:34:58.430 --> 00:35:00.409 transcendental renounced 705 00:35:00.410 --> 00:35:02.329 order, together with 706 00:35:02.330 --> 00:35:04.549 an eternal Garland 707 00:35:04.550 --> 00:35:07.219 of my supreme grace. 708 00:35:07.220 --> 00:35:09.109 Subsequently, mother received 709 00:35:09.110 --> 00:35:10.340 the Sanskrit name 710 00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:13.489 Turiyasangitananda, meaning the 711 00:35:13.490 --> 00:35:16.339 transcendental Lord's 712 00:35:16.340 --> 00:35:18.499 highest song 713 00:35:18.500 --> 00:35:19.550 of bliss. 714 00:35:21.460 --> 00:35:23.679 The following video clip produced 715 00:35:23.680 --> 00:35:25.659 by the Integral Yoga 716 00:35:25.660 --> 00:35:27.699 Institute shows 717 00:35:27.700 --> 00:35:29.709 footage from my mother's 718 00:35:29.710 --> 00:35:31.779 and such a dad on his travels 719 00:35:31.780 --> 00:35:33.729 together in India. 720 00:35:33.730 --> 00:35:35.679 Integral Yoga Institute in 721 00:35:35.680 --> 00:35:37.809 New York City is an active 722 00:35:37.810 --> 00:35:39.909 yoga school formally 723 00:35:39.910 --> 00:35:42.369 led by statute and under 724 00:35:42.370 --> 00:35:44.289 my mother's financial support, 725 00:35:44.290 --> 00:35:46.509 made the purchase of the building 726 00:35:46.510 --> 00:35:48.729 possible in the 11th hour 727 00:35:48.730 --> 00:35:51.189 in 1971. 728 00:35:51.190 --> 00:35:53.409 Alice performed a benefit concert 729 00:35:53.410 --> 00:35:55.269 for the Institute at 730 00:35:55.270 --> 00:35:56.270 Carnegie Hall. 731 00:35:57.240 --> 00:35:58.889 The recording of this performance 732 00:35:58.890 --> 00:36:00.959 was released for the first time on 733 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.210 vinyl in 2024. 734 00:36:06.250 --> 00:36:07.250 Children of life. 735 00:36:08.110 --> 00:36:10.869 There is no virtue higher than love. 736 00:36:10.870 --> 00:36:12.249 There is not pleasure. 737 00:36:12.250 --> 00:36:13.719 Higher than love. 738 00:36:13.720 --> 00:36:15.519 There is no religion higher than 739 00:36:15.520 --> 00:36:17.439 love. Because love is 740 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:18.249 truth. 741 00:36:18.250 --> 00:36:19.899 And love is God. 742 00:36:19.900 --> 00:36:22.369 Love, Pray and 743 00:36:22.370 --> 00:36:23.370 [inaudible]. 744 00:36:24.430 --> 00:36:26.259 This world has come out of love. 745 00:36:26.260 --> 00:36:28.449 These world exists in love 746 00:36:28.450 --> 00:36:30.699 and is what ultimately dissolves 747 00:36:30.700 --> 00:36:31.389 in love. 748 00:36:31.390 --> 00:36:33.849 A documentary about the pilgrimage 749 00:36:33.850 --> 00:36:35.919 highlighted special experiences 750 00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.229 in Rishikesh, including 751 00:36:38.230 --> 00:36:39.639 Hatha Yoga on the banks of the 752 00:36:39.640 --> 00:36:40.640 Ganges. 753 00:36:42.910 --> 00:36:44.648 About 15 miles up the Ganges is 754 00:36:44.649 --> 00:36:45.649 [inaudible], here 755 00:36:48.970 --> 00:36:50.589 Swamiji Leaves the cave where he has 756 00:36:50.590 --> 00:36:52.719 meditated many times 757 00:36:52.720 --> 00:36:54.579 at this sacred spot 758 00:36:54.580 --> 00:36:56.079 from which he helped us all to 759 00:36:56.080 --> 00:36:58.539 plunge into the icy cold waters 760 00:36:58.540 --> 00:37:00.489 of the Holy Mother Ganges River. 761 00:37:01.570 --> 00:37:03.579 Worshiped by millions, this 762 00:37:03.580 --> 00:37:05.589 river carries with it a positive, 763 00:37:05.590 --> 00:37:08.079 purifying vibration. 764 00:37:08.080 --> 00:37:09.969 It is considered as a blessing to 765 00:37:09.970 --> 00:37:10.970 even touch its holy waters. 766 00:37:12.220 --> 00:37:14.079 And we felt an undeserved and 767 00:37:14.080 --> 00:37:15.909 unfathomable blessing 768 00:37:15.910 --> 00:37:17.589 to enter her into him and Swamiji's 769 00:37:17.590 --> 00:37:18.590 presence. 770 00:37:26.900 --> 00:37:28.879 The pilgrimage continued in Sri 771 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.069 Lanka, then a salon 772 00:37:31.070 --> 00:37:33.469 with a cultural program that Swamani 773 00:37:33.470 --> 00:37:34.879 participated in. 774 00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:35.659 Followed by a. 775 00:37:35.660 --> 00:37:37.729 Yoga retreat led by Gurudev. 776 00:37:41.300 --> 00:37:43.319 No real truth 777 00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:45.719 is expressed by silence. 778 00:37:45.720 --> 00:37:48.629 And understand the world by silence. 779 00:37:48.630 --> 00:37:49.630 And 780 00:37:50.910 --> 00:37:51.749 we were even. 781 00:37:51.750 --> 00:37:53.309 More surprised to find that things 782 00:37:53.310 --> 00:37:55.169 went on as usual. 783 00:37:55.170 --> 00:37:57.149 Even the calm of yoga and 784 00:37:57.150 --> 00:37:58.109 we all became much. 785 00:37:58.110 --> 00:38:00.309 Stronger in self-discipline, 786 00:38:00.310 --> 00:38:03.869 along with forgiveness. 787 00:38:03.870 --> 00:38:05.270 Thank you for joining me 788 00:38:06.750 --> 00:38:07.830 this year. Very good to 789 00:38:09.420 --> 00:38:11.459 take this peace and joy with you 790 00:38:11.460 --> 00:38:14.099 all over wherever you go 791 00:38:14.100 --> 00:38:15.539 and chatting with one another on. 792 00:38:18.510 --> 00:38:20.519 And this pilgrimage would be life 793 00:38:20.520 --> 00:38:22.379 changing for her, she 794 00:38:22.380 --> 00:38:23.699 said. 795 00:38:23.700 --> 00:38:26.069 Having made the journey to the east, 796 00:38:26.070 --> 00:38:27.929 a most important part of my 797 00:38:27.930 --> 00:38:29.849 sadhana has been completed. 798 00:38:31.150 --> 00:38:33.319 From 1970 to 799 00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.529 1972, her incredible 800 00:38:35.530 --> 00:38:37.629 creativity flourished. 801 00:38:37.630 --> 00:38:39.579 She explained the trip 802 00:38:39.580 --> 00:38:41.949 to the East gave me the spiritual 803 00:38:41.950 --> 00:38:43.989 motivation to come out more, 804 00:38:43.990 --> 00:38:46.059 to do more with my music. 805 00:38:47.200 --> 00:38:49.029 I also listen to a lot 806 00:38:49.030 --> 00:38:50.859 of beautiful sitar and Veena 807 00:38:50.860 --> 00:38:52.779 music, and I'm going to 808 00:38:52.780 --> 00:38:54.999 use some of the chants I heard. 809 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.219 Some of the essence of the East. 810 00:38:58.300 --> 00:39:00.129 She wrote on the inside of 811 00:39:00.130 --> 00:39:01.419 the album cover. 812 00:39:01.420 --> 00:39:03.609 Direct inspiration for Journey 813 00:39:03.610 --> 00:39:05.709 in Satchidananda comes 814 00:39:05.710 --> 00:39:08.049 from my meeting and association 815 00:39:08.050 --> 00:39:09.879 with someone who is near and 816 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:10.880 dear to me. 817 00:39:14.330 --> 00:39:16.549 I am speaking of my own beloved 818 00:39:16.550 --> 00:39:19.169 spiritual preceptor Swami 819 00:39:19.170 --> 00:39:20.170 Satchidananda. 820 00:39:28.300 --> 00:39:30.129 As a young teen harpist, 821 00:39:30.130 --> 00:39:32.259 I often found myself looking 822 00:39:32.260 --> 00:39:33.699 for so much more when it came to the 823 00:39:33.700 --> 00:39:35.139 music that I was studying. 824 00:39:36.190 --> 00:39:38.049 Although I enjoyed my harp lessons, 825 00:39:38.050 --> 00:39:39.819 I always felt this sense of 826 00:39:39.820 --> 00:39:41.349 detachment. 827 00:39:41.350 --> 00:39:43.329 And one afternoon, my dad came home. 828 00:39:43.330 --> 00:39:44.679 He yelled upstairs for me to come 829 00:39:44.680 --> 00:39:46.599 out and get something from him, 830 00:39:46.600 --> 00:39:48.519 and he handed me a CD and sent 831 00:39:48.520 --> 00:39:49.520 me on my way. 832 00:39:50.200 --> 00:39:52.029 It was the compilation Priceless 833 00:39:52.030 --> 00:39:54.039 Jazz Alice Coltrane. 834 00:39:54.040 --> 00:39:55.719 I put it on, and the first track was 835 00:39:55.720 --> 00:39:56.769 Blue Nile. 836 00:39:56.770 --> 00:39:59.079 The second was Terry and Ramakrishna 837 00:39:59.080 --> 00:40:00.849 that I later learned that were both 838 00:40:00.850 --> 00:40:03.459 from the album Patta that Al Daoud 839 00:40:03.460 --> 00:40:05.499 recorded right there on 840 00:40:05.500 --> 00:40:07.359 Long Island, 841 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.339 not far from where I live. 842 00:40:09.340 --> 00:40:10.629 I worked hard to get rid of that 843 00:40:10.630 --> 00:40:11.630 accent. 844 00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:15.189 Blue Nile featured Harp in a way 845 00:40:15.190 --> 00:40:17.679 I had never heard before in my life. 846 00:40:17.680 --> 00:40:19.029 She was playing glissandos. 847 00:40:19.030 --> 00:40:20.649 You know, the thing that people 848 00:40:20.650 --> 00:40:22.119 think harps can only do. 849 00:40:24.730 --> 00:40:26.589 Everyone just expects to hear that 850 00:40:26.590 --> 00:40:28.839 every time they see a harp. 851 00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:30.460 Like I died and went to heaven. 852 00:40:32.230 --> 00:40:34.059 But on Blue Nile, 853 00:40:34.060 --> 00:40:35.739 she was literally swinging through 854 00:40:35.740 --> 00:40:38.499 the glissando, swinging through 855 00:40:38.500 --> 00:40:40.419 in glistens, through a minor 856 00:40:40.420 --> 00:40:41.949 blues. I had never heard anything 857 00:40:41.950 --> 00:40:43.149 like that before. 858 00:40:43.150 --> 00:40:45.399 My mind was completely blown. 859 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.259 Never before had I heard a harp 860 00:40:47.260 --> 00:40:49.959 being played so soulfully 861 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:51.039 in my life. 862 00:40:51.040 --> 00:40:52.989 And after that, it was it 863 00:40:52.990 --> 00:40:54.159 was a wrap. I don't think we still 864 00:40:54.160 --> 00:40:55.160 say it was a wrap, 865 00:40:57.220 --> 00:40:58.220 but it was. 866 00:40:59.380 --> 00:41:01.299 I can't tell you what played 867 00:41:01.300 --> 00:41:03.609 on the disc after the second track, 868 00:41:03.610 --> 00:41:05.049 after Turiya and Ramakrishna, 869 00:41:05.050 --> 00:41:06.669 because I wore the disco and it 870 00:41:06.670 --> 00:41:08.199 broke. 871 00:41:08.200 --> 00:41:10.959 But with this instrument, 872 00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:12.909 Alice Coltrane was truly breaking 873 00:41:12.910 --> 00:41:14.199 ground. 874 00:41:14.200 --> 00:41:16.059 She was a black woman playing harp. 875 00:41:16.060 --> 00:41:17.919 And that representation was 876 00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:19.749 everything to me because 877 00:41:19.750 --> 00:41:21.639 I had nobody to look towards, no 878 00:41:21.640 --> 00:41:23.319 models. How could I know that this 879 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:24.699 instrument could be for me when I 880 00:41:24.700 --> 00:41:26.919 never saw anyone who looked like me 881 00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:28.569 playing it all these years growing 882 00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:29.699 up? 883 00:41:29.700 --> 00:41:31.019 You know, before the Internet. 884 00:41:33.070 --> 00:41:34.179 I mean, there weren't many. 885 00:41:34.180 --> 00:41:35.529 There weren't many black harpist, a 886 00:41:35.530 --> 00:41:36.759 few, very few. 887 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:37.760 They were sprinkled. 888 00:41:38.890 --> 00:41:40.959 Also, she was incorporating the harp 889 00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:42.789 into jazz and incorporating 890 00:41:42.790 --> 00:41:44.409 it prominently. 891 00:41:44.410 --> 00:41:46.029 Other than the great Dorothy Ashby, 892 00:41:46.030 --> 00:41:47.829 nobody was doing this on such a high 893 00:41:47.830 --> 00:41:48.939 level. 894 00:41:48.940 --> 00:41:50.979 And like I mentioned earlier, I 895 00:41:50.980 --> 00:41:52.419 enjoyed my lessons. 896 00:41:52.420 --> 00:41:54.459 But that sense of detachment 897 00:41:54.460 --> 00:41:56.319 was really it 898 00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:58.629 was it was it was a problem. 899 00:41:58.630 --> 00:41:59.979 And it wasn't until I started to 900 00:41:59.980 --> 00:42:01.809 hear the harp in the 901 00:42:01.810 --> 00:42:03.759 context of a rhythm section that 902 00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:05.979 it instantly felt relatable. 903 00:42:05.980 --> 00:42:07.389 And that's what Blue Nile ended up 904 00:42:07.390 --> 00:42:08.390 doing for me. 905 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:11.229 And finally, she was a woman 906 00:42:11.230 --> 00:42:12.550 in jazz. 907 00:42:13.720 --> 00:42:15.669 We all know what a boys club that 908 00:42:15.670 --> 00:42:16.929 jazz can be today. 909 00:42:16.930 --> 00:42:19.269 So just imagine it in the 60s. 910 00:42:20.410 --> 00:42:21.410 Whoo! 911 00:42:21.820 --> 00:42:23.259 And when I listened to her music, 912 00:42:23.260 --> 00:42:25.209 specifically her harp playing, 913 00:42:25.210 --> 00:42:27.129 she truly used the harp as 914 00:42:27.130 --> 00:42:28.989 a bridge, a 915 00:42:28.990 --> 00:42:30.219 bridge to connect eastern and 916 00:42:30.220 --> 00:42:32.349 African sound with the more western 917 00:42:32.350 --> 00:42:33.969 way that we're accustomed to hearing 918 00:42:33.970 --> 00:42:34.989 music. 919 00:42:34.990 --> 00:42:37.149 And it's quite incredible. 920 00:42:37.150 --> 00:42:38.499 She had her own way of playing in 921 00:42:38.500 --> 00:42:40.119 order to achieve these sounds that 922 00:42:40.120 --> 00:42:42.069 transcended the traditional Western 923 00:42:42.070 --> 00:42:43.809 teachings of the harp. 924 00:42:43.810 --> 00:42:46.149 She created her own style. 925 00:42:46.150 --> 00:42:47.229 And when you listen through her 926 00:42:47.230 --> 00:42:49.239 discography from the first album 927 00:42:49.240 --> 00:42:50.979 to the Ashram recordings, you can 928 00:42:50.980 --> 00:42:53.949 hear how the style has taken form 929 00:42:53.950 --> 00:42:56.199 one that is all her own. 930 00:42:56.200 --> 00:42:58.359 One that incorporates her gospel, 931 00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:00.339 classical and jazz roots 932 00:43:00.340 --> 00:43:02.619 with Indian classical music. 933 00:43:02.620 --> 00:43:04.539 She truly defined who she was while 934 00:43:04.540 --> 00:43:06.400 being led by her spirituality. 935 00:43:07.420 --> 00:43:08.979 I feel honored to have developed 936 00:43:08.980 --> 00:43:10.749 this sense of attachment to the harp 937 00:43:10.750 --> 00:43:12.429 and sense of belonging that I didn't 938 00:43:12.430 --> 00:43:13.839 have before. 939 00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.459 The sense of freedom and what feels 940 00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:16.779 like permission to take the 941 00:43:16.780 --> 00:43:18.189 instrument down nontraditional 942 00:43:18.190 --> 00:43:20.049 paths, connecting it back 943 00:43:20.050 --> 00:43:21.789 to its roots in Africa and 944 00:43:21.790 --> 00:43:23.859 incorporating classical music, jazz, 945 00:43:23.860 --> 00:43:25.179 R&B or whatever. 946 00:43:25.180 --> 00:43:27.579 I feel like playing at the time. 947 00:43:27.580 --> 00:43:29.619 It's truly humbling and inspiring 948 00:43:29.620 --> 00:43:31.449 to witness the diverse growth of 949 00:43:31.450 --> 00:43:33.909 the harp and harp music today. 950 00:43:33.910 --> 00:43:35.949 I've always associated this 951 00:43:35.950 --> 00:43:37.269 song that I'm going to play for you 952 00:43:37.270 --> 00:43:38.679 with funerals. 953 00:43:38.680 --> 00:43:40.089 It's a common one that we hear at 954 00:43:40.090 --> 00:43:42.489 homegoing celebrations. 955 00:43:42.490 --> 00:43:44.589 So here's a brief segment of going 956 00:43:44.590 --> 00:43:45.399 home. 957 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:47.229 Do you remember which album this is 958 00:43:47.230 --> 00:43:48.339 on? 959 00:43:48.340 --> 00:43:50.949 We have two versions 960 00:43:50.950 --> 00:43:51.579 going home. 961 00:43:51.580 --> 00:43:53.409 One is on Welcome 962 00:43:53.410 --> 00:43:54.993 Home with Carlos Santana. 963 00:44:00.670 --> 00:44:01.989 And then the other one is. 964 00:44:03.630 --> 00:44:05.939 Just drawing a blank. 965 00:44:05.940 --> 00:44:07.649 We should. Anybody. 966 00:44:07.650 --> 00:44:08.669 Laura? Laura. 967 00:44:08.670 --> 00:44:09.749 Okay. Of course. 968 00:44:09.750 --> 00:44:10.768 Turiya knows. This is my daughter. 969 00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:13.589 Good work, child. 970 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:18.886 This is Going Home. 971 00:44:22.020 --> 00:44:23.020 . 972 00:47:46.240 --> 00:47:47.079 I just wanted 973 00:47:47.080 --> 00:47:49.029 to lay on the floor 974 00:47:49.030 --> 00:47:50.859 and listen to 975 00:47:50.860 --> 00:47:51.860 your harp. 976 00:47:52.300 --> 00:47:53.300 Brandee. 977 00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.169 Are the black girls in art 978 00:47:59.170 --> 00:48:00.219 spaces here? 979 00:48:04.690 --> 00:48:05.690 All right. 980 00:48:07.980 --> 00:48:08.999 Nice to have you. 981 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:10.710 I hope you're enjoying the program. 982 00:48:13.260 --> 00:48:15.359 You just heard Going Home from the 983 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.639 album Lord of Lords. 984 00:48:17.640 --> 00:48:19.319 The concept of going home at the 985 00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.329 time that she made 986 00:48:21.330 --> 00:48:23.549 this music in 1972 987 00:48:23.550 --> 00:48:25.379 had many meanings. 988 00:48:25.380 --> 00:48:27.359 1972 was the year 989 00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.279 we moved from New York 990 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.259 to California, and 991 00:48:31.260 --> 00:48:32.999 it's where my mother began her 992 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.189 journey as a spiritual 993 00:48:35.190 --> 00:48:36.190 leader. 994 00:48:36.970 --> 00:48:39.339 Her first spiritual center started 995 00:48:39.340 --> 00:48:43.029 in San Francisco in 1975. 996 00:48:43.030 --> 00:48:45.149 It was called The One Mind 997 00:48:45.150 --> 00:48:47.139 Temple and was founded to 998 00:48:47.140 --> 00:48:48.999 honor the life and music of 999 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:50.110 John Coltrane. 1000 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:53.249 One mind gradually transitioned 1001 00:48:53.250 --> 00:48:55.019 away from being a place for John 1002 00:48:55.020 --> 00:48:58.109 Coltrane fans to congregate, 1003 00:48:58.110 --> 00:49:00.179 becoming instead a place 1004 00:49:00.180 --> 00:49:02.399 for spiritual practice. 1005 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:04.289 With this new mission, the 1006 00:49:04.290 --> 00:49:06.389 center became a designated 1007 00:49:06.390 --> 00:49:08.579 non profit organization. 1008 00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:12.479 Shortly thereafter, a handful 1009 00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:14.309 of members of the group 1010 00:49:14.310 --> 00:49:16.319 moved to Southern California 1011 00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.019 and the location was named 1012 00:49:19.020 --> 00:49:20.759 the Vedanta Center. 1013 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.589 This location was in a 1014 00:49:22.590 --> 00:49:24.779 house adjacent to where my family 1015 00:49:24.780 --> 00:49:25.780 lived. 1016 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:28.889 When I was initiated into 1017 00:49:28.890 --> 00:49:30.929 the practice, I received the name 1018 00:49:30.930 --> 00:49:32.789 Sita, meaning 1019 00:49:32.790 --> 00:49:35.159 the embodiment of all 1020 00:49:35.160 --> 00:49:36.750 feminine virtues. 1021 00:49:37.850 --> 00:49:39.589 My three brothers also received 1022 00:49:39.590 --> 00:49:40.999 their own spiritual names. 1023 00:49:42.230 --> 00:49:44.149 Vedas teach 1024 00:49:44.150 --> 00:49:46.849 us that the Lord has many names. 1025 00:49:46.850 --> 00:49:49.159 Narayana is one of the highest 1026 00:49:49.160 --> 00:49:51.139 of those names which my 1027 00:49:51.140 --> 00:49:52.760 brother Ravi received. 1028 00:49:53.890 --> 00:49:55.779 The late John Junior. 1029 00:49:55.780 --> 00:49:57.579 Oldest of the three brothers was 1030 00:49:57.580 --> 00:49:59.799 given the name Arjuna, 1031 00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:01.749 which means friend and disciple 1032 00:50:01.750 --> 00:50:03.219 of Krishna. 1033 00:50:03.220 --> 00:50:06.189 Krishna drove Arjuna's chariot 1034 00:50:06.190 --> 00:50:08.109 on the battlefield and 1035 00:50:08.110 --> 00:50:09.969 revealed the Bhagavad Gita 1036 00:50:09.970 --> 00:50:11.439 to him. 1037 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:13.389 My brother Oran got the name 1038 00:50:13.390 --> 00:50:15.669 Ram Lal, representing 1039 00:50:15.670 --> 00:50:17.499 a youthful version of 1040 00:50:17.500 --> 00:50:18.579 the God Rahm. 1041 00:50:19.910 --> 00:50:21.889 We each also received 1042 00:50:21.890 --> 00:50:24.469 our own sacred mantras 1043 00:50:24.470 --> 00:50:26.599 which were kept secret to preserve 1044 00:50:26.600 --> 00:50:27.600 their holiness. 1045 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:32.689 Students of Turiya practiced 1046 00:50:32.690 --> 00:50:34.729 daily meditation, 1047 00:50:34.730 --> 00:50:36.619 weekly chanting of sacred 1048 00:50:36.620 --> 00:50:38.659 spiritual hymns called 1049 00:50:38.660 --> 00:50:40.699 Bhajans, and Scripture 1050 00:50:40.700 --> 00:50:42.049 class. 1051 00:50:42.050 --> 00:50:44.059 The centerpiece of Mother's chanting 1052 00:50:44.060 --> 00:50:45.829 and meditation teachings at the 1053 00:50:45.830 --> 00:50:47.809 ashram were the Sunday 1054 00:50:47.810 --> 00:50:48.810 services. 1055 00:50:50.210 --> 00:50:51.919 We dress in all white and chant 1056 00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.109 traditional Hindu bhajans. 1057 00:50:54.110 --> 00:50:55.489 Alice would play the organ. 1058 00:50:55.490 --> 00:50:57.199 My brothers and I would sing and 1059 00:50:57.200 --> 00:50:59.239 sing the bhajans we 1060 00:50:59.240 --> 00:51:01.489 were taught along with 1061 00:51:01.490 --> 00:51:03.380 the other initiated students. 1062 00:51:05.010 --> 00:51:07.049 We would all be called on to lead 1063 00:51:07.050 --> 00:51:08.969 a bhajan to break our 1064 00:51:08.970 --> 00:51:10.979 self out of our shell. 1065 00:51:10.980 --> 00:51:11.980 It was fun. 1066 00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:27.399 The 1996 year gives 1067 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:29.260 us opportunity to reach goals. 1068 00:51:31.290 --> 00:51:32.730 Accomplish the objective. 1069 00:51:34.100 --> 00:51:35.100 To edify, to 1070 00:51:35.980 --> 00:51:37.480 grow closer to God. 1071 00:51:39.160 --> 00:51:41.349 Closer to completion 1072 00:51:41.350 --> 00:51:42.519 of the spiritual path. 1073 00:51:43.900 --> 00:51:45.519 That's the purpose of life is to go 1074 00:51:45.520 --> 00:51:46.520 all the way from here, 1075 00:51:48.470 --> 00:51:49.470 to liberation, 1076 00:51:50.540 --> 00:51:51.540 self realization, and 1077 00:51:52.430 --> 00:51:53.430 God. 1078 00:51:53.780 --> 00:51:55.729 One would hope that in any one 1079 00:51:55.730 --> 00:51:57.949 lifetime we could achieve it. 1080 00:51:57.950 --> 00:51:59.929 If it can't be possible, the Lord 1081 00:51:59.930 --> 00:52:02.689 is giving you that opportunity. 1082 00:52:02.690 --> 00:52:05.119 Life after life to strive, 1083 00:52:05.120 --> 00:52:06.340 to become liberated. 1084 00:52:07.370 --> 00:52:09.229 To strive to become 1085 00:52:09.230 --> 00:52:10.429 self realized. 1086 00:52:12.080 --> 00:52:14.269 To strive to become God 1087 00:52:14.270 --> 00:52:15.439 and lives. 1088 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.929 God gives you the new birth 1089 00:52:17.930 --> 00:52:20.479 to continue on in your evolutionary 1090 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:22.699 path to realization 1091 00:52:22.700 --> 00:52:24.139 of God. 1092 00:52:24.140 --> 00:52:25.999 The Lord always has a major plan 1093 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.650 for the people of this world. 1094 00:52:28.790 --> 00:52:30.079 Otherwise it would have been 1095 00:52:30.080 --> 00:52:31.429 finished long ago. 1096 00:52:32.810 --> 00:52:35.209 The Lord could have selected a few 1097 00:52:35.210 --> 00:52:36.469 and said, "This is enough. 1098 00:52:36.470 --> 00:52:38.899 These ones have already realized 1099 00:52:38.900 --> 00:52:40.279 me. Therefore, I don't have to 1100 00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:42.199 consider any other purpose for 1101 00:52:42.200 --> 00:52:44.209 creation." But God is not 1102 00:52:44.210 --> 00:52:45.919 like that. The Lord doesn't think 1103 00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:46.969 like the people think. 1104 00:52:48.890 --> 00:52:50.449 The Lord doesn't consider things in 1105 00:52:50.450 --> 00:52:52.519 the way that humans consider 1106 00:52:52.520 --> 00:52:54.379 them, because 1107 00:52:54.380 --> 00:52:56.239 God's plan is for all of the people, 1108 00:52:56.240 --> 00:52:57.650 not some of the people. 1109 00:52:58.700 --> 00:53:00.559 The Lord wants all to 1110 00:53:00.560 --> 00:53:03.109 have the opportunity to experience 1111 00:53:03.110 --> 00:53:04.110 the truth. 1112 00:53:16.870 --> 00:53:18.100 One of my faves. 1113 00:53:20.580 --> 00:53:22.679 Now settled in California 1114 00:53:22.680 --> 00:53:24.239 with our new family life and 1115 00:53:24.240 --> 00:53:26.339 spiritual communities coming 1116 00:53:26.340 --> 00:53:27.239 together. 1117 00:53:27.240 --> 00:53:28.829 It wasn't long before the next 1118 00:53:28.830 --> 00:53:30.870 ground shaking event struck. 1119 00:53:31.910 --> 00:53:33.769 My brother Arjuna. 1120 00:53:33.770 --> 00:53:36.109 John Coltrane, Jr. 1121 00:53:36.110 --> 00:53:38.089 left his earthly form at 1122 00:53:38.090 --> 00:53:40.579 17 years old 1123 00:53:40.580 --> 00:53:41.749 in a car accident. 1124 00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:44.439 I remember receiving the call and 1125 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:46.329 rushing home to my mother. 1126 00:53:46.330 --> 00:53:48.219 Instead of the anguish you 1127 00:53:48.220 --> 00:53:50.169 would expect from a mother who 1128 00:53:50.170 --> 00:53:52.449 just lost a child, 1129 00:53:52.450 --> 00:53:54.309 I instead found a mom 1130 00:53:54.310 --> 00:53:57.309 composed and poised. 1131 00:53:57.310 --> 00:53:59.199 I asked how was 1132 00:53:59.200 --> 00:54:01.479 she able to hold herself together 1133 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:02.679 with such calm? 1134 00:54:03.870 --> 00:54:04.870 To which she replied, "I 1135 00:54:07.030 --> 00:54:08.859 had him for 17 1136 00:54:08.860 --> 00:54:09.860 years. 1137 00:54:10.690 --> 00:54:12.819 Some women leave the hospital after 1138 00:54:12.820 --> 00:54:14.889 a pregnancy with no baby." 1139 00:54:16.230 --> 00:54:18.299 Of course, that was like, wow. 1140 00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:19.300 Ooh. 1141 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:21.949 He lived a good life and he was 1142 00:54:21.950 --> 00:54:24.409 loved and he was well taken care of. 1143 00:54:24.410 --> 00:54:25.249 Again. 1144 00:54:25.250 --> 00:54:28.159 The through line of transcendent 1145 00:54:28.160 --> 00:54:30.559 spiritual strength through crisis 1146 00:54:30.560 --> 00:54:32.479 and hardship was 1147 00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.369 at the forefront of my mother's 1148 00:54:34.370 --> 00:54:35.869 experience. 1149 00:54:35.870 --> 00:54:38.599 I was amazed and inspired 1150 00:54:38.600 --> 00:54:40.219 in her resilience. 1151 00:54:42.690 --> 00:54:44.099 A few times over the years. 1152 00:54:44.100 --> 00:54:46.349 I questioned my mother regarding 1153 00:54:46.350 --> 00:54:48.869 fairness in life 1154 00:54:48.870 --> 00:54:50.969 and she replied, "It is not for 1155 00:54:50.970 --> 00:54:53.189 us humans to question." 1156 00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:56.519 At this point in Turiya's life, she 1157 00:54:56.520 --> 00:54:58.679 was attuned to a higher 1158 00:54:58.680 --> 00:54:59.969 authority. 1159 00:54:59.970 --> 00:55:01.769 When difficulties and challenges 1160 00:55:01.770 --> 00:55:03.749 occurred, she turned 1161 00:55:03.750 --> 00:55:05.879 towards devotion and 1162 00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:06.880 elevation. 1163 00:55:08.980 --> 00:55:10.869 A sustaining force throughout these 1164 00:55:10.870 --> 00:55:13.149 challenges was the growth of 1165 00:55:13.150 --> 00:55:14.150 Sai Anantam. 1166 00:55:14.750 --> 00:55:16.918 In 1983, my mother found 1167 00:55:18.110 --> 00:55:19.699 a 48 acre plot. 1168 00:55:20.810 --> 00:55:21.979 There was no mule there. 1169 00:55:26.560 --> 00:55:28.569 Outside Los Angeles in Agoura 1170 00:55:28.570 --> 00:55:30.639 Hills, situated among the Santa 1171 00:55:30.640 --> 00:55:32.469 Monica mountains, about 15 1172 00:55:32.470 --> 00:55:35.259 miles from the Pacific Ocean. 1173 00:55:35.260 --> 00:55:37.419 Here, the ashram expanded 1174 00:55:37.420 --> 00:55:39.129 into its own village. 1175 00:55:39.130 --> 00:55:41.169 The centerpiece was the White Temple 1176 00:55:41.170 --> 00:55:42.170 pictured here. 1177 00:55:43.550 --> 00:55:45.409 In Sanskrit, it's called a 1178 00:55:45.410 --> 00:55:46.410 mandir. 1179 00:55:47.080 --> 00:55:49.179 Around the mandir where dormitories 1180 00:55:49.180 --> 00:55:51.099 and an industrial kitchen for 1181 00:55:51.100 --> 00:55:52.959 initiated students who lived on 1182 00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:53.979 the property. 1183 00:55:53.980 --> 00:55:55.359 It was perfect. 1184 00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:57.189 Many stayed on site throughout 1185 00:55:57.190 --> 00:55:59.446 the week and others visitors 1186 00:56:01.120 --> 00:56:02.830 attended the Sunday services. 1187 00:56:04.410 --> 00:56:06.509 The community was on the land for 1188 00:56:06.510 --> 00:56:08.399 34 years and 1189 00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.189 continues to gather to this day. 1190 00:56:11.190 --> 00:56:13.559 We carry on the humble obedience 1191 00:56:13.560 --> 00:56:15.419 and sacred offerings 1192 00:56:15.420 --> 00:56:17.279 to the Supreme Lord in 1193 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:19.259 the tradition celebrated during 1194 00:56:19.260 --> 00:56:20.520 the Sunday services. 1195 00:56:22.590 --> 00:56:24.629 My mother authored several books 1196 00:56:24.630 --> 00:56:26.669 on her path to communicate 1197 00:56:26.670 --> 00:56:28.979 her spiritual ideology. 1198 00:56:28.980 --> 00:56:30.209 These books are direct 1199 00:56:30.210 --> 00:56:33.599 transcriptions of her meditations. 1200 00:56:33.600 --> 00:56:35.129 The writings are compelling 1201 00:56:35.130 --> 00:56:37.109 teachings about the connection 1202 00:56:37.110 --> 00:56:40.349 of heart, mind and consciousness. 1203 00:56:40.350 --> 00:56:42.629 Her first book, Monumental 1204 00:56:42.630 --> 00:56:45.119 Eternal, is the most personal 1205 00:56:45.120 --> 00:56:46.559 of the series. 1206 00:56:46.560 --> 00:56:48.959 In this memoir, she discusses 1207 00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:51.839 how the universe reveals itself 1208 00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.629 to the spiritually inclined. 1209 00:56:54.630 --> 00:56:56.639 She herself experienced this 1210 00:56:56.640 --> 00:56:57.959 firsthand. 1211 00:56:57.960 --> 00:56:59.789 The book traces her journey of 1212 00:56:59.790 --> 00:57:02.459 turning tragedy into transcendence. 1213 00:57:02.460 --> 00:57:04.349 Writing about what she experienced 1214 00:57:04.350 --> 00:57:06.599 and how she managed hardship, 1215 00:57:06.600 --> 00:57:08.549 my mother offered an accessible 1216 00:57:08.550 --> 00:57:10.829 look into both her earthly 1217 00:57:10.830 --> 00:57:12.510 and spiritual life. 1218 00:57:15.870 --> 00:57:17.909 Endless wisdom and endless wisdom 1219 00:57:17.910 --> 00:57:19.741 to focus on 1220 00:57:19.742 --> 00:57:22.709 Turiyasangitananda's meditations. 1221 00:57:22.710 --> 00:57:24.689 These are dense, deeply 1222 00:57:24.690 --> 00:57:27.189 devotional texts. 1223 00:57:27.190 --> 00:57:29.259 They provide insight into two areas 1224 00:57:29.260 --> 00:57:31.959 rigorous spiritual practice 1225 00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:33.529 and the knowledge that she gave 1226 00:57:33.530 --> 00:57:35.439 through this commitment. 1227 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:38.109 Both of these books also chronicle 1228 00:57:38.110 --> 00:57:41.049 her profound and unique experiences 1229 00:57:41.050 --> 00:57:42.789 communicating with the Supreme. 1230 00:57:43.860 --> 00:57:45.689 Monument Eternal has 1231 00:57:45.690 --> 00:57:47.880 been released in print. 1232 00:57:49.180 --> 00:57:51.249 I'm sorry has been rereleased 1233 00:57:51.250 --> 00:57:53.229 in print and as 1234 00:57:53.230 --> 00:57:55.539 an audio book through Akashic 1235 00:57:55.540 --> 00:57:56.540 Books. 1236 00:59:16.460 --> 00:59:18.920 One day during meditation, 1237 00:59:20.420 --> 00:59:21.829 the Lord was teaching 1238 00:59:23.540 --> 00:59:25.729 about many wonderful 1239 00:59:25.730 --> 00:59:28.039 things in the universe 1240 00:59:28.040 --> 00:59:29.329 and in our world, 1241 00:59:31.610 --> 00:59:33.529 the light that there are many 1242 00:59:33.530 --> 00:59:35.449 demigods brought 1243 00:59:35.450 --> 00:59:36.769 forth by the Lord. 1244 00:59:37.900 --> 00:59:40.549 The many angelic beings, 1245 00:59:40.550 --> 00:59:43.039 seraphic beings. 1246 00:59:43.040 --> 00:59:44.270 So that means 1247 00:59:46.010 --> 00:59:48.049 the Lord also told them many 1248 00:59:48.050 --> 00:59:49.939 persons on 1249 00:59:49.940 --> 00:59:50.940 earth 1250 00:59:51.860 --> 00:59:53.329 living divine life 1251 00:59:54.830 --> 00:59:56.360 on a particular mission, 1252 00:59:58.220 --> 01:00:00.440 certain instruments 1253 01:00:01.700 --> 01:00:02.700 of God. 1254 01:00:04.700 --> 01:00:06.709 The Lord told what I do when I bring 1255 01:00:06.710 --> 01:00:07.710 forth creation, 1256 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.659 I give to every being 1257 01:00:11.660 --> 01:00:13.399 some attribute of me. 1258 01:00:18.510 --> 01:00:21.059 You just saw a clip from Eternity's 1259 01:00:21.060 --> 01:00:23.159 Pillar, a spiritual 1260 01:00:23.160 --> 01:00:25.409 musical public access television 1261 01:00:25.410 --> 01:00:27.599 series that my mother created 1262 01:00:27.600 --> 01:00:29.489 and produced in the 1980s 1263 01:00:29.490 --> 01:00:30.490 and 90s. 1264 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:33.469 The series ran when cable television 1265 01:00:33.470 --> 01:00:35.119 first debuted to the public. 1266 01:00:36.170 --> 01:00:38.359 The pre-show dialog was spoken 1267 01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:40.010 by Lawrence Tanner. 1268 01:00:41.190 --> 01:00:43.259 Who is now the L.A. 1269 01:00:43.260 --> 01:00:44.520 Lakers. Announcer. 1270 01:00:47.490 --> 01:00:49.769 The music lives on as Alice's 1271 01:00:49.770 --> 01:00:51.599 most widely known spiritual 1272 01:00:51.600 --> 01:00:52.979 offering. 1273 01:00:52.980 --> 01:00:55.529 One of her landmark impulse albums 1274 01:00:55.530 --> 01:00:57.419 pictured here is Trance Linear 1275 01:00:57.420 --> 01:00:59.429 Light, her final studio 1276 01:00:59.430 --> 01:01:00.599 recording. 1277 01:01:00.600 --> 01:01:02.729 It was produced by my brother Ravi 1278 01:01:02.730 --> 01:01:04.589 and beautifully weaves 1279 01:01:04.590 --> 01:01:06.209 through the musical chapters of her 1280 01:01:06.210 --> 01:01:07.289 life. 1281 01:01:07.290 --> 01:01:09.509 We hear traditional spirituals 1282 01:01:09.510 --> 01:01:11.339 reminiscent of her childhood 1283 01:01:11.340 --> 01:01:14.099 playing in the church in Detroit 1284 01:01:14.100 --> 01:01:15.959 jazz standards, nodding to 1285 01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:17.909 her career as a pianist, and 1286 01:01:17.910 --> 01:01:20.009 time with John Coltrane. 1287 01:01:20.010 --> 01:01:22.589 And devotional bhajan chants 1288 01:01:22.590 --> 01:01:25.169 played in her signature style 1289 01:01:25.170 --> 01:01:26.170 as leader of Sai Anantam. 1290 01:01:28.670 --> 01:01:30.709 The album is the culmination 1291 01:01:30.710 --> 01:01:32.719 of an incredible musical life. 1292 01:01:33.780 --> 01:01:35.639 And is celebrating. 1293 01:01:35.640 --> 01:01:38.939 And it is celebrating its 21st 1294 01:01:38.940 --> 01:01:40.289 anniversary this year. 1295 01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:43.869 21 years. 1296 01:01:45.520 --> 01:01:46.840 21. 22. 1297 01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:54.800 Well. 1298 01:01:55.310 --> 01:01:56.310 It was going so good. 1299 01:02:00.630 --> 01:02:02.459 That one's not that old, but 1300 01:02:02.460 --> 01:02:04.089 it's good. 1301 01:02:05.210 --> 01:02:06.672 2007, six. 1302 01:02:09.130 --> 01:02:11.289 It's 2006. 1303 01:02:11.290 --> 01:02:13.059 Okay. We did some fact checking. 1304 01:02:20.200 --> 01:02:21.399 Thank you. My daughter. 1305 01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:22.539 Turiya. 1306 01:02:22.540 --> 01:02:23.769 The baby. Turiya. 1307 01:02:23.770 --> 01:02:25.329 You got it, girl. 1308 01:02:25.330 --> 01:02:27.339 When we speak about Alice, 1309 01:02:27.340 --> 01:02:29.379 Turiya's music, her approach to 1310 01:02:29.380 --> 01:02:31.239 it. My feeling is 1311 01:02:31.240 --> 01:02:32.229 like this. 1312 01:02:32.230 --> 01:02:34.209 Swamini's music has always 1313 01:02:34.210 --> 01:02:36.399 encompassed a devout spiritual 1314 01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:37.449 intent. 1315 01:02:37.450 --> 01:02:39.339 It was always present on the jazz 1316 01:02:39.340 --> 01:02:41.049 recordings and also on the 1317 01:02:41.050 --> 01:02:42.879 devotional recordings. 1318 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:44.679 There's always been a prayerful 1319 01:02:44.680 --> 01:02:47.139 quality that it transmits 1320 01:02:47.140 --> 01:02:48.939 with joy and bliss. 1321 01:02:48.940 --> 01:02:52.119 There's also tribulation, suffering 1322 01:02:52.120 --> 01:02:53.979 and reflection on the life 1323 01:02:53.980 --> 01:02:55.329 that she lives. 1324 01:02:57.290 --> 01:03:00.049 It has indeed been 21 years 1325 01:03:00.050 --> 01:03:01.369 since trampling in your life. 1326 01:03:03.420 --> 01:03:04.420 I did the math after you. 1327 01:03:04.890 --> 01:03:06.962 Yes. 14, 1328 01:03:06.963 --> 01:03:07.979 24. 1329 01:03:07.980 --> 01:03:08.980 25. 1330 01:03:10.290 --> 01:03:11.939 In denial about one's age. 1331 01:03:11.940 --> 01:03:12.940 But 1332 01:03:14.910 --> 01:03:17.009 geez, just to echo 1333 01:03:17.010 --> 01:03:18.239 what you said, Michelle, 1334 01:03:20.310 --> 01:03:22.259 her music has always encompassed 1335 01:03:22.260 --> 01:03:24.089 a really devout spiritual 1336 01:03:24.090 --> 01:03:26.249 intent, and there is an honest 1337 01:03:26.250 --> 01:03:28.109 and pure, genuine quality that 1338 01:03:28.110 --> 01:03:29.429 threads throughout her entire 1339 01:03:29.430 --> 01:03:31.289 discography from the first album 1340 01:03:32.370 --> 01:03:34.349 in Huntington all 1341 01:03:34.350 --> 01:03:35.819 the way through the Ashram 1342 01:03:35.820 --> 01:03:37.589 recordings. There's just this 1343 01:03:37.590 --> 01:03:38.669 authenticity. 1344 01:03:38.670 --> 01:03:40.499 People always ask, like, So what is 1345 01:03:40.500 --> 01:03:41.319 it about her music? 1346 01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:42.359 Why is it so special? 1347 01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:44.009 It's because it's it's authentic. 1348 01:03:44.010 --> 01:03:46.109 It's not being created 1349 01:03:46.110 --> 01:03:47.999 because of industry 1350 01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:50.109 trends or the labels 1351 01:03:50.110 --> 01:03:51.110 that do that. 1352 01:03:52.170 --> 01:03:53.459 We all know how that goes. 1353 01:03:54.990 --> 01:03:57.149 She was one of the 1354 01:03:57.150 --> 01:03:58.799 first black artists to even have 1355 01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:00.719 control over what 1356 01:04:00.720 --> 01:04:02.789 she created when she first 1357 01:04:02.790 --> 01:04:05.159 time impulse. So that was a huge 1358 01:04:05.160 --> 01:04:06.489 that was a huge deal. 1359 01:04:07.690 --> 01:04:08.729 Breakthrough. Yeah. 1360 01:04:08.730 --> 01:04:09.539 Huge breakthrough. 1361 01:04:09.540 --> 01:04:10.769 And not just in jazz. 1362 01:04:10.770 --> 01:04:12.899 No black artists really had any 1363 01:04:12.900 --> 01:04:14.849 creative freedom at that time. 1364 01:04:14.850 --> 01:04:17.369 So we're talking the late 60s. 1365 01:04:17.370 --> 01:04:19.229 So that was and she was 1366 01:04:19.230 --> 01:04:20.230 a woman. 1367 01:04:21.210 --> 01:04:22.210 Kind of crazy. 1368 01:04:28.700 --> 01:04:29.449 They think those. 1369 01:04:29.450 --> 01:04:30.800 Might have been my earrings. 1370 01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:36.889 In 2017, a decade 1371 01:04:36.890 --> 01:04:38.659 after my mother left her earthly 1372 01:04:38.660 --> 01:04:39.739 body. 1373 01:04:39.740 --> 01:04:41.689 A compilation of her devotional 1374 01:04:41.690 --> 01:04:43.789 music was released by David 1375 01:04:43.790 --> 01:04:45.402 Byrne's record label, Luaka Bop. 1376 01:04:47.120 --> 01:04:49.159 A devoted audience had grown around 1377 01:04:49.160 --> 01:04:50.689 my mother's later music. 1378 01:04:50.690 --> 01:04:52.669 Originally released on cassettes 1379 01:04:52.670 --> 01:04:54.559 and CD's only 1380 01:04:54.560 --> 01:04:57.319 available at her ashram. 1381 01:04:57.320 --> 01:04:59.599 The recordings were at some point 1382 01:04:59.600 --> 01:05:02.179 bootlegged and uploaded online. 1383 01:05:02.180 --> 01:05:04.489 People heard it and loved it. 1384 01:05:04.490 --> 01:05:07.159 The Luaka bop album entitled 1385 01:05:07.160 --> 01:05:09.199 The Ecstatic Music of Alice 1386 01:05:09.200 --> 01:05:10.200 Coltrane 1387 01:05:11.380 --> 01:05:13.279 Turiyasangitananda, therefore was 1388 01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.979 a highly anticipated release. 1389 01:05:15.980 --> 01:05:17.659 It became one of the best selling 1390 01:05:17.660 --> 01:05:19.699 and critically acclaimed vinyl 1391 01:05:19.700 --> 01:05:21.110 records of the year. 1392 01:05:22.120 --> 01:05:24.099 It was the number one world music 1393 01:05:24.100 --> 01:05:26.349 album on the real Billboard 1394 01:05:26.350 --> 01:05:27.400 chart. Remember that one? 1395 01:05:29.200 --> 01:05:31.330 I'm a person that had paper for 1396 01:05:32.410 --> 01:05:34.239 most it more than most of my life. 1397 01:05:35.260 --> 01:05:37.209 And also I remember with my Aunt 1398 01:05:37.210 --> 01:05:39.219 Marilyn, my mother's baby 1399 01:05:39.220 --> 01:05:41.199 sister, who 1400 01:05:41.200 --> 01:05:42.999 is out of Detroit, she worked for 1401 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:44.319 Motown. She started as a 1402 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:46.269 stenographer, which 1403 01:05:46.270 --> 01:05:48.549 was the word I use for typewriting, 1404 01:05:48.550 --> 01:05:50.349 I guess, the time. 1405 01:05:50.350 --> 01:05:52.239 And this Berry Gordy headed 1406 01:05:52.240 --> 01:05:54.279 this company and he allowed 1407 01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:55.629 people to submit songs. 1408 01:05:55.630 --> 01:05:57.789 So she went from stenographer 1409 01:05:57.790 --> 01:06:00.249 to writing songs, and 1410 01:06:00.250 --> 01:06:01.539 she received 1411 01:06:03.340 --> 01:06:05.499 a number. She was nominated 1412 01:06:05.500 --> 01:06:07.389 for Song of 1413 01:06:07.390 --> 01:06:09.339 the Year. That's a big one 1414 01:06:09.340 --> 01:06:11.169 for a song called Love Hang Over 1415 01:06:11.170 --> 01:06:13.029 in 1976 1416 01:06:13.030 --> 01:06:14.769 that Diana Ross sang. 1417 01:06:14.770 --> 01:06:16.629 And I had a disco thing at 1418 01:06:16.630 --> 01:06:17.630 the end, 1419 01:06:18.730 --> 01:06:20.649 and this record went platinum, 1420 01:06:20.650 --> 01:06:22.719 actually. And so my 1421 01:06:22.720 --> 01:06:25.269 mom was the second 1422 01:06:25.270 --> 01:06:27.339 of her sisters to reach the top 1423 01:06:27.340 --> 01:06:28.479 of the chart. 1424 01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:30.489 So even though my mother was 1425 01:06:30.490 --> 01:06:32.439 older than Maryland, Maryland had 1426 01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:34.269 already got a hit record and 1427 01:06:34.270 --> 01:06:36.369 also some Anita Baker 1428 01:06:36.370 --> 01:06:38.059 hits and so on. 1429 01:06:38.060 --> 01:06:39.060 So. 1430 01:06:41.110 --> 01:06:42.849 The success of the low alcopop 1431 01:06:42.850 --> 01:06:44.739 release prompted a tour 1432 01:06:44.740 --> 01:06:46.419 where students of the ashram and 1433 01:06:46.420 --> 01:06:48.429 myself traveled to Europe 1434 01:06:48.430 --> 01:06:50.679 and throughout the states performing 1435 01:06:50.680 --> 01:06:51.680 her music. 1436 01:06:54.380 --> 01:06:57.379 This revealed a hunger for profound 1437 01:06:57.380 --> 01:06:59.959 and spiritually awakened music. 1438 01:06:59.960 --> 01:07:01.849 Alice and other artists were 1439 01:07:01.850 --> 01:07:03.499 receiving their long overdue 1440 01:07:03.500 --> 01:07:06.409 recognition on the global stage 1441 01:07:06.410 --> 01:07:08.419 with her music and her words 1442 01:07:08.420 --> 01:07:10.429 and her legacy. 1443 01:07:10.430 --> 01:07:12.409 Swami nee enlighten the world and 1444 01:07:12.410 --> 01:07:14.449 brought her students and listeners 1445 01:07:14.450 --> 01:07:16.369 closer to the divine. 1446 01:07:17.810 --> 01:07:19.219 In closing, I would like to talk 1447 01:07:19.220 --> 01:07:21.289 about our Coltrane home project, 1448 01:07:21.290 --> 01:07:23.569 which is dear to my heart. 1449 01:07:23.570 --> 01:07:25.669 The Coltrane Home is an organization 1450 01:07:25.670 --> 01:07:27.739 dedicated to furthering my family's 1451 01:07:27.740 --> 01:07:30.440 legacy of creative innovation. 1452 01:07:35.620 --> 01:07:37.209 I had to go down that long driveway 1453 01:07:37.210 --> 01:07:38.500 in the snow to get 1454 01:07:39.730 --> 01:07:40.849 to the bus. 1455 01:07:40.850 --> 01:07:42.579 Seemed like forever. 1456 01:07:42.580 --> 01:07:44.679 A central project is the opening 1457 01:07:44.680 --> 01:07:46.509 of my family home 1458 01:07:46.510 --> 01:07:48.549 on Long Island to the public 1459 01:07:48.550 --> 01:07:50.049 where I lived during my childhood 1460 01:07:50.050 --> 01:07:51.909 years with my family and 1461 01:07:51.910 --> 01:07:53.559 which was the site of my mother's 1462 01:07:53.560 --> 01:07:55.419 recording studio. 1463 01:07:55.420 --> 01:07:57.279 It was also the last home of 1464 01:07:57.280 --> 01:07:59.769 my father, where he composed 1465 01:07:59.770 --> 01:08:00.770 a Love Supreme. 1466 01:08:03.300 --> 01:08:04.679 It was a sacred time. 1467 01:08:04.680 --> 01:08:05.609 Yeah. 1468 01:08:05.610 --> 01:08:06.610 Supreme. 1469 01:08:10.160 --> 01:08:12.019 My mom had said like there'd 1470 01:08:12.020 --> 01:08:13.849 be the, you know, the bathroom 1471 01:08:13.850 --> 01:08:15.799 roof was be flooded and 1472 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:17.478 there's kids and babies and all 1473 01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:19.608 this. And so he went to the upstairs 1474 01:08:19.609 --> 01:08:21.589 bedroom and she just said 1475 01:08:21.590 --> 01:08:22.590 she. 1476 01:08:22.970 --> 01:08:25.249 Just left him alone. 1477 01:08:25.250 --> 01:08:26.358 And then when he came down the 1478 01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:27.769 stairs, what did he say? 1479 01:08:27.770 --> 01:08:29.179 I got it. 1480 01:08:29.180 --> 01:08:31.188 This is the first time I have 1481 01:08:31.189 --> 01:08:32.089 it all. 1482 01:08:32.090 --> 01:08:34.249 So it's it is a beautiful, 1483 01:08:34.250 --> 01:08:35.420 sacred space there. 1484 01:08:41.580 --> 01:08:43.858 The home was saved from demolition 1485 01:08:43.859 --> 01:08:45.539 through the efforts of a devoted 1486 01:08:45.540 --> 01:08:48.239 group of supporters and volunteers. 1487 01:08:49.470 --> 01:08:50.938 It's through our work at the John 1488 01:08:50.939 --> 01:08:52.528 and Alice Coltrane home that we can 1489 01:08:52.529 --> 01:08:54.358 preserve the importance and 1490 01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:56.188 legacy of two profound, 1491 01:08:56.189 --> 01:08:58.108 deserving artist. 1492 01:08:58.109 --> 01:08:59.849 The National Trust for Historic 1493 01:08:59.850 --> 01:09:02.489 Preservation is a strategic partner 1494 01:09:02.490 --> 01:09:04.438 for the Coltrane Home Project, 1495 01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:06.599 as well as the Coltrane home 1496 01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:08.669 in Philadelphia, where 1497 01:09:08.670 --> 01:09:10.619 my father lived earlier in his 1498 01:09:10.620 --> 01:09:11.789 life. 1499 01:09:11.790 --> 01:09:13.709 These sites are vital, 1500 01:09:13.710 --> 01:09:16.919 historic and cultural landmarks, 1501 01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:18.419 and we want them to be open to the 1502 01:09:18.420 --> 01:09:20.579 public for visitors to learn 1503 01:09:20.580 --> 01:09:22.799 and be inspired. 1504 01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:25.019 Throughout our year of Alice 1505 01:09:25.020 --> 01:09:26.608 initiatives. 1506 01:09:26.609 --> 01:09:29.249 Let me just explain that one. 1507 01:09:29.250 --> 01:09:31.469 I have been saying that every day 1508 01:09:31.470 --> 01:09:32.879 I've been alive has been John 1509 01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:34.709 Coltrane Day and. 1510 01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:38.358 And well-deserved. 1511 01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:40.369 So a few years ago, my 1512 01:09:40.370 --> 01:09:42.648 sister in law and I thought 1513 01:09:42.649 --> 01:09:44.209 because I had it, my mother had a 1514 01:09:44.210 --> 01:09:46.309 heart. Is this the same exact model? 1515 01:09:46.310 --> 01:09:48.409 And 11 I 1516 01:09:48.410 --> 01:09:50.358 had the harp in my home in Los 1517 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:52.099 Angeles. And, you know, we didn't 1518 01:09:52.100 --> 01:09:53.449 feel it for Mother's Day. 1519 01:09:53.450 --> 01:09:54.349 And, you know, we had to keep it 1520 01:09:54.350 --> 01:09:56.209 protected because of the earthquakes 1521 01:09:56.210 --> 01:09:57.979 and everything. But we thought this 1522 01:09:57.980 --> 01:09:59.599 instrument doesn't need to be on 1523 01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:00.469 display anywhere. 1524 01:10:00.470 --> 01:10:01.819 It needs to be played. 1525 01:10:01.820 --> 01:10:03.379 So we shipped it off to Lyon and 1526 01:10:03.380 --> 01:10:04.189 Healy. 1527 01:10:04.190 --> 01:10:07.429 It got re refurbished. 1528 01:10:07.430 --> 01:10:10.129 And this lady here, 1529 01:10:10.130 --> 01:10:11.329 when I call her young lady, she's 1530 01:10:11.330 --> 01:10:12.559 like, I'm not that young. 1531 01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:13.560 I never. 1532 01:10:18.330 --> 01:10:19.049 This very. 1533 01:10:19.050 --> 01:10:21.359 Very young lady here 1534 01:10:21.360 --> 01:10:23.399 debuted the harp in 1535 01:10:23.400 --> 01:10:25.889 Detroit at the Detroit Jazz Festival 1536 01:10:25.890 --> 01:10:28.169 last September. 1537 01:10:29.370 --> 01:10:31.109 So after that, we. 1538 01:10:31.110 --> 01:10:32.009 Yeah. 1539 01:10:32.010 --> 01:10:33.010 Collapsing more. 1540 01:10:37.510 --> 01:10:38.859 We also went to a high school in 1541 01:10:38.860 --> 01:10:40.839 Detroit, Cass Tech, and 1542 01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:42.459 met eight Harp students. 1543 01:10:42.460 --> 01:10:43.460 So. 1544 01:10:45.120 --> 01:10:46.949 Male and female. 1545 01:10:46.950 --> 01:10:49.589 Different cultures. 1546 01:10:49.590 --> 01:10:50.969 And I thought, wow. 1547 01:10:50.970 --> 01:10:51.899 It's unheard of. 1548 01:10:51.900 --> 01:10:54.089 So very nice. 1549 01:10:54.090 --> 01:10:56.159 We decided to say, yeah, let's 1550 01:10:56.160 --> 01:10:58.289 let's do some some 1551 01:11:00.150 --> 01:11:01.529 programing, let's do some 1552 01:11:01.530 --> 01:11:02.489 educational. 1553 01:11:02.490 --> 01:11:04.109 Let's reach out. Let's do let's call 1554 01:11:04.110 --> 01:11:05.729 it The Year of Alice. 1555 01:11:05.730 --> 01:11:07.949 And so we've had a very, 1556 01:11:07.950 --> 01:11:09.719 very successful year, which will 1557 01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:12.239 culminate while also 1558 01:11:12.240 --> 01:11:14.039 this great exhibit here that has 1559 01:11:14.040 --> 01:11:15.330 been in the process 1560 01:11:16.350 --> 01:11:18.239 through the work of Erin 1561 01:11:18.240 --> 01:11:20.429 Crist of all this has been 1562 01:11:20.430 --> 01:11:22.259 doesn't come together very easy. 1563 01:11:22.260 --> 01:11:23.759 It's been a wonderful learning 1564 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:24.539 experience. 1565 01:11:24.540 --> 01:11:27.989 And I'm constantly inspired 1566 01:11:27.990 --> 01:11:29.609 when you go back and look through 1567 01:11:29.610 --> 01:11:31.589 your the archives of 1568 01:11:31.590 --> 01:11:33.419 my family, my 1569 01:11:33.420 --> 01:11:34.420 own family, 1570 01:11:35.580 --> 01:11:37.229 it's been wonderful. 1571 01:11:37.230 --> 01:11:39.179 And the culmination, I just 1572 01:11:39.180 --> 01:11:41.099 want to say off the script 1573 01:11:41.100 --> 01:11:43.229 a little bit, this be the 1574 01:11:43.230 --> 01:11:45.449 the end of the year of Alice, 1575 01:11:45.450 --> 01:11:46.649 which will never hopefully it'll 1576 01:11:46.650 --> 01:11:48.329 never be, but culminating in New 1577 01:11:48.330 --> 01:11:50.309 York City at Carnegie Hall 1578 01:11:50.310 --> 01:11:51.779 May 16th. 1579 01:11:51.780 --> 01:11:52.889 She will be there. 1580 01:11:52.890 --> 01:11:53.669 I will be there. 1581 01:11:53.670 --> 01:11:55.709 And if any of you in New York City 1582 01:11:55.710 --> 01:11:57.329 please come and see the Year of 1583 01:11:57.330 --> 01:11:59.549 Alice with my brother Ravi and 1584 01:11:59.550 --> 01:12:00.720 Flying Lotus. 1585 01:12:02.670 --> 01:12:04.079 In closing, I'd like to share a 1586 01:12:04.080 --> 01:12:06.089 short film about the home 1587 01:12:06.090 --> 01:12:07.090 project. 1588 01:12:32.460 --> 01:12:34.739 When I come to this home now, 1589 01:12:34.740 --> 01:12:36.569 it's easy for all of 1590 01:12:36.570 --> 01:12:38.280 the memories to come flooding back. 1591 01:12:41.430 --> 01:12:43.079 And I recall. 1592 01:12:43.080 --> 01:12:45.059 The leaves, the music, 1593 01:12:45.060 --> 01:12:47.010 and my family being intact. 1594 01:12:50.430 --> 01:12:52.259 I know that this this home, this 1595 01:12:52.260 --> 01:12:54.179 space inspired them to 1596 01:12:54.180 --> 01:12:56.249 greater creative heights. 1597 01:12:56.250 --> 01:12:58.649 Alice, my mother. 1598 01:12:58.650 --> 01:13:00.419 She was a great supporter. 1599 01:13:00.420 --> 01:13:02.279 You know, this story of her being in 1600 01:13:02.280 --> 01:13:03.539 this house with. 1601 01:13:03.540 --> 01:13:04.349 Four. 1602 01:13:04.350 --> 01:13:06.539 Children under the age of seven 1603 01:13:06.540 --> 01:13:08.759 and her husband upstairs 1604 01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:09.809 writing music. 1605 01:13:09.810 --> 01:13:11.369 It was a recording studio right in 1606 01:13:11.370 --> 01:13:12.689 this very space that we were sitting 1607 01:13:12.690 --> 01:13:14.519 in. My mother created her early 1608 01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:15.810 Impulse albums on. 1609 01:13:18.870 --> 01:13:20.069 You know, John and Alice had 1610 01:13:20.070 --> 01:13:22.379 something very, very unique to 1611 01:13:22.380 --> 01:13:23.369 share with the world. 1612 01:13:23.370 --> 01:13:25.349 You know, so we're trying to find 1613 01:13:25.350 --> 01:13:27.339 a way to bring all of that love 1614 01:13:27.340 --> 01:13:28.829 and right back into this space. 1615 01:13:38.350 --> 01:13:40.239 The mission of the home is to. 1616 01:13:40.240 --> 01:13:42.219 Create, educate and 1617 01:13:42.220 --> 01:13:43.329 elevate. 1618 01:13:43.330 --> 01:13:44.299 That is our mission. 1619 01:13:44.300 --> 01:13:45.300 That is our goal. 1620 01:13:58.720 --> 01:13:59.720 Yes. 1621 01:14:00.790 --> 01:14:02.379 I want to give my thanks to Brandee 1622 01:14:02.380 --> 01:14:03.909 Younger, Ross Chait. 1623 01:14:03.910 --> 01:14:05.409 My sister in law, Kathleen 1624 01:14:05.410 --> 01:14:06.926 Hennessey, Erin Christovale, 1625 01:14:08.290 --> 01:14:10.479 Nyah, all of you at the Hammer 1626 01:14:10.480 --> 01:14:12.579 that made this beautiful 1627 01:14:12.580 --> 01:14:15.459 event possible. 1628 01:14:15.460 --> 01:14:17.049 And I do mean the exhibit. 1629 01:14:17.050 --> 01:14:18.699 This is just a side salad of the 1630 01:14:18.700 --> 01:14:20.739 exhibit, and I appreciate 1631 01:14:20.740 --> 01:14:22.659 being asked to do this. 1632 01:14:22.660 --> 01:14:24.459 I want to I want to close with 1633 01:14:24.460 --> 01:14:26.349 remarks from 1634 01:14:26.350 --> 01:14:27.159 my mother. 1635 01:14:27.160 --> 01:14:28.719 It's a quote. 1636 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:30.729 "Continue to edify your life 1637 01:14:30.730 --> 01:14:32.289 and go forward. 1638 01:14:32.290 --> 01:14:34.599 Onward. Beyond salvation, 1639 01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:36.369 liberation, even beyond 1640 01:14:36.370 --> 01:14:38.289 self-realization, 1641 01:14:38.290 --> 01:14:39.169 to the highest. 1642 01:14:39.170 --> 01:14:41.259 To obtain realization 1643 01:14:41.260 --> 01:14:42.629 in God. 1644 01:14:42.630 --> 01:14:44.859 Om Shanti. 1645 01:14:44.860 --> 01:14:46.179 Shanti. 1646 01:14:46.180 --> 01:14:47.180 Shanti." 1647 01:15:03.770 --> 01:15:05.739 I also want to thank my 1648 01:15:05.740 --> 01:15:07.509 children. I love you very much. 1649 01:15:07.510 --> 01:15:09.519 My husband, Dino 1650 01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:11.020 and Mark 1651 01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:16.180 and all of my ashram 1652 01:15:17.470 --> 01:15:18.470 family. 1653 01:15:26.270 --> 01:15:27.270 In. 1654 01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:28.640 Got a little temporer there. 1655 01:15:37.230 --> 01:15:38.240 Journey to 1656 01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:40.800 Satchidananda. 1657 01:15:44.667 --> 01:15:45.667 Journey to 1658 01:15:47.360 --> 01:15:48.360 Satchidananda. 1659 01:16:04.350 --> 01:16:07.140 This journey. 1660 01:16:09.980 --> 01:16:11.929 Is to 1661 01:16:11.930 --> 01:16:13.469 infinity. 1662 01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:19.680 To. 1663 01:16:21.390 --> 01:16:22.416 Divine Wisdom. 1664 01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:29.520 Blessedness. 1665 01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:35.960 He guides us. 1666 01:16:43.160 --> 01:16:44.621 To celestial realms. 1667 01:16:46.090 --> 01:16:48.329 To the soul's 1668 01:16:48.330 --> 01:16:49.830 victory. 1669 01:16:52.240 --> 01:16:53.240 His way is sure. 1670 01:16:54.580 --> 01:16:55.580 His promises pure. 1671 01:16:57.580 --> 01:16:58.580 He will lead us 1672 01:17:00.300 --> 01:17:01.300 to God's 1673 01:17:03.320 --> 01:17:04.320 heavenly shore. 1674 01:17:06.030 --> 01:17:07.079 He knows the. 1675 01:17:07.080 --> 01:17:08.080 Way. 1676 01:17:11.260 --> 01:17:12.260 Of infinity. 1677 01:17:14.180 --> 01:17:15.865 Through life's tests and trials. 1678 01:17:28.620 --> 01:17:29.770 Ooh, 1679 01:17:31.200 --> 01:17:32.200 ooh. 1680 01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:01.960 Thank you. 1681 01:18:45.610 --> 01:18:46.779 Hi, everyone. 1682 01:18:46.780 --> 01:18:47.949 We're going to take a few audience 1683 01:18:47.950 --> 01:18:49.209 questions. I just want to let you 1684 01:18:49.210 --> 01:18:51.219 know that we have ushers on both 1685 01:18:51.220 --> 01:18:53.409 aisles and they'll bring microphones 1686 01:18:53.410 --> 01:18:54.970 to people who raise their hands. 1687 01:18:56.260 --> 01:18:58.089 They alternate sides, so don't 1688 01:18:58.090 --> 01:18:59.949 get frustrated. It's a plan. 1689 01:18:59.950 --> 01:19:01.839 And we'll try to get as many of you 1690 01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:03.759 as we possibly can. 1691 01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:05.289 And Michelle and Brandee, you'll 1692 01:19:05.290 --> 01:19:06.819 just hear voices, but you might not 1693 01:19:06.820 --> 01:19:09.279 be able to exactly see who's talking 1694 01:19:09.280 --> 01:19:10.329 unless they wave. 1695 01:19:12.790 --> 01:19:14.500 Are we ready for our first question? 1696 01:19:18.570 --> 01:19:20.489 Okay. The ushers going to come to 1697 01:19:20.490 --> 01:19:21.490 you. 1698 01:19:22.030 --> 01:19:23.979 I'm looking for an usher 1699 01:19:23.980 --> 01:19:25.479 with a microphone. 1700 01:19:25.480 --> 01:19:26.829 Well, good evening. 1701 01:19:26.830 --> 01:19:28.809 There we go. Somebody got one? 1702 01:19:28.810 --> 01:19:29.979 Yes. Can you hear me? 1703 01:19:29.980 --> 01:19:30.939 Yes. Beautiful. 1704 01:19:30.940 --> 01:19:32.169 Can you go ahead. 1705 01:19:32.170 --> 01:19:34.269 I would like to know the location 1706 01:19:34.270 --> 01:19:36.999 of the 48 acre 1707 01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:38.000 ashram. 1708 01:19:39.370 --> 01:19:41.349 It was 1709 01:19:41.350 --> 01:19:43.509 between the one on one 1710 01:19:43.510 --> 01:19:45.849 and the ocean 1711 01:19:45.850 --> 01:19:46.850 off of 1712 01:19:48.580 --> 01:19:50.319 Triumphal Canyon. 1713 01:19:50.320 --> 01:19:52.329 The exit would be Canan 1714 01:19:52.330 --> 01:19:54.189 off of the 101, and it was in 1715 01:19:54.190 --> 01:19:56.139 the city of 1716 01:19:56.140 --> 01:19:57.140 Agoura. 1717 01:19:58.300 --> 01:20:00.849 Unfortunately, it 1718 01:20:00.850 --> 01:20:03.850 that big fire in 2017 1719 01:20:05.650 --> 01:20:07.479 took out 1720 01:20:07.480 --> 01:20:10.089 a lot. It took the whole area 1721 01:20:10.090 --> 01:20:10.899 out. 1722 01:20:10.900 --> 01:20:12.489 Similar. Not this other. 1723 01:20:12.490 --> 01:20:13.749 This fire we just had. 1724 01:20:13.750 --> 01:20:14.750 But 1725 01:20:16.330 --> 01:20:17.330 we had. 1726 01:20:18.100 --> 01:20:19.779 There were no loss of life on the 1727 01:20:19.780 --> 01:20:20.859 property. 1728 01:20:20.860 --> 01:20:23.109 And I feel somehow 1729 01:20:23.110 --> 01:20:24.939 everything was purified and 1730 01:20:24.940 --> 01:20:26.919 it was return to the, 1731 01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:28.689 you know, the sacred things and the 1732 01:20:28.690 --> 01:20:30.729 holy things that happened there 1733 01:20:30.730 --> 01:20:32.250 where returned to the earth. 1734 01:20:33.280 --> 01:20:36.219 I can speak to you afterwards, 1735 01:20:36.220 --> 01:20:38.319 but I'd like to know 1736 01:20:38.320 --> 01:20:40.539 what are the future plans 1737 01:20:40.540 --> 01:20:41.540 for that. 1738 01:20:44.320 --> 01:20:46.329 We as 1739 01:20:46.330 --> 01:20:48.159 the people and the students, the 1740 01:20:48.160 --> 01:20:49.749 initiated students and friends of 1741 01:20:49.750 --> 01:20:51.939 the ashram continue to gather 1742 01:20:51.940 --> 01:20:53.859 in our own homes 1743 01:20:53.860 --> 01:20:56.529 or special occasions. 1744 01:20:56.530 --> 01:20:58.449 So we don't have the, we 1745 01:20:58.450 --> 01:21:00.579 don't have the regular Sunday 1746 01:21:00.580 --> 01:21:02.649 services from 1 to 1747 01:21:02.650 --> 01:21:04.659 4 like we did for 30 1748 01:21:04.660 --> 01:21:06.009 years. 1749 01:21:06.010 --> 01:21:07.899 But it's we're 1750 01:21:07.900 --> 01:21:09.999 still working on 1751 01:21:11.290 --> 01:21:13.750 celebrating and practices. 1752 01:21:16.540 --> 01:21:17.379 You're welcome. 1753 01:21:17.380 --> 01:21:18.380 Next question. 1754 01:21:22.620 --> 01:21:24.059 Hi. Thank you so much for this 1755 01:21:24.060 --> 01:21:25.709 beautiful evening. 1756 01:21:25.710 --> 01:21:28.199 Can you talk about how spiritual 1757 01:21:28.200 --> 01:21:30.839 principle informed 1758 01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:33.209 your mother and your stepfather's 1759 01:21:33.210 --> 01:21:35.099 methods of creation 1760 01:21:35.100 --> 01:21:37.049 and just how what you observed 1761 01:21:37.050 --> 01:21:39.059 about that in your 1762 01:21:39.060 --> 01:21:40.060 in your work? 1763 01:21:44.420 --> 01:21:46.339 I want to say that 1764 01:21:46.340 --> 01:21:48.229 through the things I heard and the 1765 01:21:48.230 --> 01:21:49.230 way I was taught. 1766 01:21:50.540 --> 01:21:52.369 If you live the truth. 1767 01:21:52.370 --> 01:21:53.569 You can speak the truth. 1768 01:21:53.570 --> 01:21:55.159 You can play the truth. 1769 01:21:55.160 --> 01:21:57.379 And I think they both wanted 1770 01:21:57.380 --> 01:21:59.359 more than the, not 1771 01:21:59.360 --> 01:22:01.189 that we all probably haven't had fun 1772 01:22:01.190 --> 01:22:03.229 in a bar and the 1773 01:22:03.230 --> 01:22:05.149 whole, the scene, that they wanted 1774 01:22:05.150 --> 01:22:07.189 to have their music 1775 01:22:08.420 --> 01:22:09.859 delivered in a 1776 01:22:12.140 --> 01:22:14.089 serious way, in a in 1777 01:22:14.090 --> 01:22:15.089 a spiritual manner. 1778 01:22:15.090 --> 01:22:17.599 I guess it was 1779 01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:20.119 something they were both seeking. 1780 01:22:20.120 --> 01:22:21.589 Like when someone seeks out a 1781 01:22:21.590 --> 01:22:23.419 particular practice to 1782 01:22:23.420 --> 01:22:24.409 follow. 1783 01:22:24.410 --> 01:22:25.410 And. 1784 01:22:26.690 --> 01:22:29.289 Do you want to expound upon that. 1785 01:22:29.290 --> 01:22:30.939 As a musician yourself? 1786 01:22:33.450 --> 01:22:34.950 What was the question exactly? 1787 01:22:37.890 --> 01:22:39.839 So, yeah, I don't know what 1788 01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:41.039 they were thinking. 1789 01:22:41.040 --> 01:22:43.229 It's just from my experiences and 1790 01:22:43.230 --> 01:22:45.089 and as people and being raised by 1791 01:22:45.090 --> 01:22:46.090 people like that, 1792 01:22:47.400 --> 01:22:50.009 it wasn't any compromising 1793 01:22:50.010 --> 01:22:51.839 the you know, my mom said 1794 01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:53.189 one time, I said, why don't you play 1795 01:22:53.190 --> 01:22:54.449 this or why don't you play? 1796 01:22:54.450 --> 01:22:55.769 And she'd say, No, you know, I'd 1797 01:22:55.770 --> 01:22:57.599 rather we'd rather eat 1798 01:22:57.600 --> 01:22:58.739 lettuce than play that. 1799 01:22:58.740 --> 01:23:00.809 So it's very strict discipline. 1800 01:23:00.810 --> 01:23:02.849 So it needed to match what 1801 01:23:02.850 --> 01:23:05.069 the creativity was, 1802 01:23:05.070 --> 01:23:07.409 you know, a way to practice 1803 01:23:07.410 --> 01:23:09.749 that was very, 1804 01:23:09.750 --> 01:23:10.750 very, 1805 01:23:11.970 --> 01:23:13.380 very disciplined and. 1806 01:23:14.400 --> 01:23:16.019 Not for everybody. 1807 01:23:16.020 --> 01:23:17.489 You know, there's all kinds of music 1808 01:23:17.490 --> 01:23:19.199 to enjoy. 1809 01:23:19.200 --> 01:23:20.969 But I think that something about 1810 01:23:20.970 --> 01:23:22.259 that first thing I said. 1811 01:23:22.260 --> 01:23:23.099 Speaking the truth. 1812 01:23:23.100 --> 01:23:24.539 Living the truth. 1813 01:23:24.540 --> 01:23:26.489 Carlos Santana told me that in 1814 01:23:26.490 --> 01:23:28.289 an interview with him. 1815 01:23:28.290 --> 01:23:30.299 I was standing near him 1816 01:23:30.300 --> 01:23:31.300 one time 1817 01:23:32.820 --> 01:23:33.820 and. 1818 01:23:35.320 --> 01:23:36.669 It's. It's something. 1819 01:23:37.900 --> 01:23:39.789 What's it's so mysterious in 1820 01:23:39.790 --> 01:23:42.339 a way to to try to understand 1821 01:23:42.340 --> 01:23:44.109 why would the music speak to people. 1822 01:23:44.110 --> 01:23:46.089 There are people that don't that 1823 01:23:46.090 --> 01:23:47.379 are attracted to the music that 1824 01:23:47.380 --> 01:23:48.819 don't are not strict in any 1825 01:23:48.820 --> 01:23:51.369 particular religious practice, 1826 01:23:51.370 --> 01:23:53.319 and they're like inspired by 1827 01:23:53.320 --> 01:23:55.209 it. So let's just go with that. 1828 01:23:56.830 --> 01:23:58.029 Let's take a question from this side 1829 01:23:58.030 --> 01:23:59.319 of the room, and then on this side 1830 01:23:59.320 --> 01:24:00.489 we have a gentleman who has very 1831 01:24:00.490 --> 01:24:02.199 patiently waited in the third row 1832 01:24:02.200 --> 01:24:03.200 center. 1833 01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:05.829 I know you were quite young 1834 01:24:05.830 --> 01:24:07.900 at the time, but I'm just wondering 1835 01:24:09.340 --> 01:24:11.829 what you kind of received. 1836 01:24:11.830 --> 01:24:13.179 Can you talk a little bit about the 1837 01:24:13.180 --> 01:24:15.219 group that when 1838 01:24:15.220 --> 01:24:16.599 you when your parents were playing 1839 01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:18.669 together with Pharaoh Sanders 1840 01:24:18.670 --> 01:24:20.619 and just what they were where 1841 01:24:20.620 --> 01:24:21.909 they were at at that point? 1842 01:24:21.910 --> 01:24:23.829 You know, after the when 1843 01:24:23.830 --> 01:24:25.839 she when she joined the band or when 1844 01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:27.099 they started playing together that 1845 01:24:27.100 --> 01:24:29.259 way, live like the Village Vanguard 1846 01:24:29.260 --> 01:24:31.899 again, stuff that era. 1847 01:24:31.900 --> 01:24:33.039 Can you talk about that? 1848 01:24:33.040 --> 01:24:35.259 So you talking about Alice after 1849 01:24:35.260 --> 01:24:35.739 John? 1850 01:24:35.740 --> 01:24:37.629 When I'm talking Alice with John 1851 01:24:37.630 --> 01:24:39.879 playing with John Coltrane and 1852 01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:41.469 I know you were very young then, I'm 1853 01:24:41.470 --> 01:24:43.509 not. But if she 1854 01:24:43.510 --> 01:24:46.089 ever talked about that period or 1855 01:24:46.090 --> 01:24:48.369 that expanded band. 1856 01:24:48.370 --> 01:24:50.139 It probably would have been over 1857 01:24:51.340 --> 01:24:52.149 my head. 1858 01:24:52.150 --> 01:24:53.739 I mean, we were allowed to be 1859 01:24:53.740 --> 01:24:54.819 children. 1860 01:24:54.820 --> 01:24:55.689 We were there. 1861 01:24:55.690 --> 01:24:57.549 I remember the vibrations and being 1862 01:24:57.550 --> 01:24:59.589 under, you know, the piano 1863 01:24:59.590 --> 01:25:01.299 and being backstage. 1864 01:25:01.300 --> 01:25:03.669 And I, 1865 01:25:03.670 --> 01:25:05.529 I just when I hear 1866 01:25:05.530 --> 01:25:07.479 I wanted to I'll say this, 1867 01:25:07.480 --> 01:25:09.819 when my mother joined 1868 01:25:09.820 --> 01:25:12.549 the the John Coltrane Quartet 1869 01:25:12.550 --> 01:25:14.559 and took the place of McCoy 1870 01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:16.479 Tyner, she told me that 1871 01:25:17.500 --> 01:25:19.089 she said, no, there's other people 1872 01:25:19.090 --> 01:25:20.739 you should pick. You know, I don't 1873 01:25:20.740 --> 01:25:22.329 think you know. 1874 01:25:22.330 --> 01:25:24.309 And he said he encouraged her to do 1875 01:25:24.310 --> 01:25:26.199 it. And I think that's that 1876 01:25:26.200 --> 01:25:28.090 speaks to him as a 1877 01:25:29.710 --> 01:25:30.710 person. 1878 01:25:32.200 --> 01:25:34.269 And it's and her 1879 01:25:34.270 --> 01:25:35.470 and their relationship 1880 01:25:36.670 --> 01:25:38.679 so far. Pharoah I just remember 1881 01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:40.419 being I don't I can't really speak 1882 01:25:40.420 --> 01:25:41.420 to 1883 01:25:42.340 --> 01:25:43.959 what the how they were connecting. 1884 01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:45.459 I'm sure they were in support of 1885 01:25:45.460 --> 01:25:46.299 her. 1886 01:25:46.300 --> 01:25:48.309 And maybe Brandi, you can speak 1887 01:25:48.310 --> 01:25:50.409 about how the harp and 1888 01:25:50.410 --> 01:25:51.759 how the. 1889 01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:53.529 Well, it's just I was just thinking 1890 01:25:53.530 --> 01:25:55.959 we were doing the talk on 1891 01:25:55.960 --> 01:25:57.939 Monument Eternal and Ravi 1892 01:25:57.940 --> 01:25:58.940 was talking about 1893 01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.189 them starting to work together. 1894 01:26:03.190 --> 01:26:05.229 And it was a strange 1895 01:26:05.230 --> 01:26:07.149 moment, especially with the critics, 1896 01:26:07.150 --> 01:26:08.859 because the critics were like, no, 1897 01:26:08.860 --> 01:26:10.899 she came in and and pushed 1898 01:26:10.900 --> 01:26:11.769 him in another direction. 1899 01:26:11.770 --> 01:26:13.600 But that really wasn't the case. 1900 01:26:15.180 --> 01:26:16.180 At all. 1901 01:26:17.010 --> 01:26:20.339 But I remember 1902 01:26:20.340 --> 01:26:22.499 at the memorial, I met Rasheed 1903 01:26:22.500 --> 01:26:25.289 Ali, 27, 1904 01:26:25.290 --> 01:26:27.239 and not long after he was playing 1905 01:26:27.240 --> 01:26:28.409 somewhere and I was there and he 1906 01:26:28.410 --> 01:26:30.419 would talk about her 1907 01:26:30.420 --> 01:26:32.249 learning the harp 1908 01:26:32.250 --> 01:26:34.799 and being determined to learn it. 1909 01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:37.079 At the time, I didn't know that 1910 01:26:37.080 --> 01:26:39.389 John had never seen it, 1911 01:26:39.390 --> 01:26:40.319 you know, never seen the harp. 1912 01:26:40.320 --> 01:26:42.209 But it makes sense that once you get 1913 01:26:42.210 --> 01:26:43.799 something like that from your 1914 01:26:43.800 --> 01:26:45.569 husband, who you just lost, you're 1915 01:26:45.570 --> 01:26:47.969 going to figure it out. 1916 01:26:47.970 --> 01:26:50.129 And just that whole process and 1917 01:26:50.130 --> 01:26:51.689 and how you said, Farah, how 1918 01:26:51.690 --> 01:26:52.859 everyone was supportive. 1919 01:26:52.860 --> 01:26:55.499 Everyone just wanted her 1920 01:26:55.500 --> 01:26:57.359 to talk to him, you know, 1921 01:26:57.360 --> 01:26:58.949 and that we didn't see footage of 1922 01:26:58.950 --> 01:26:59.789 the concert. 1923 01:26:59.790 --> 01:27:01.199 But it's in that Pearl Balzer 1924 01:27:01.200 --> 01:27:03.569 documentary of 1925 01:27:03.570 --> 01:27:05.219 them playing that concert in 1926 01:27:05.220 --> 01:27:07.169 Huntington with Pharoah Sanders. 1927 01:27:07.170 --> 01:27:08.639 And I think it was Reggie Workman. 1928 01:27:10.650 --> 01:27:12.359 Yeah, on Long Island, which is just. 1929 01:27:12.360 --> 01:27:13.529 I know it doesn't. 1930 01:27:13.530 --> 01:27:15.239 I know. Huntington. 1931 01:27:15.240 --> 01:27:17.099 Yeah. It was that park right 1932 01:27:17.100 --> 01:27:18.329 by your old house. 1933 01:27:19.440 --> 01:27:20.279 Texture. 1934 01:27:20.280 --> 01:27:21.329 Texture. 1935 01:27:21.330 --> 01:27:22.779 Texture. State Park. 1936 01:27:22.780 --> 01:27:23.780 Yeah. 1937 01:27:25.230 --> 01:27:27.029 But Ravi also talked about, you 1938 01:27:27.030 --> 01:27:28.469 know, he was talking about two 1939 01:27:28.470 --> 01:27:30.509 musicians doing the same 1940 01:27:30.510 --> 01:27:32.579 thing and how that can also 1941 01:27:32.580 --> 01:27:33.869 be difficult because you've got your 1942 01:27:33.870 --> 01:27:35.789 home life and your professional 1943 01:27:35.790 --> 01:27:37.199 life. And then, I mean, he wasn't 1944 01:27:37.200 --> 01:27:39.059 there, but I mean, 1945 01:27:39.060 --> 01:27:40.709 he was there. But, you know, he was 1946 01:27:40.710 --> 01:27:41.489 young. 1947 01:27:41.490 --> 01:27:43.379 But I think as 1948 01:27:43.380 --> 01:27:45.239 people, you guys do these talks and 1949 01:27:45.240 --> 01:27:47.789 then you talk to to scholars 1950 01:27:47.790 --> 01:27:49.829 and authors and then also after 1951 01:27:49.830 --> 01:27:51.329 concerts, there's always someone 1952 01:27:51.330 --> 01:27:54.599 that comes up like, I saw 1953 01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:56.309 your father. 1954 01:27:56.310 --> 01:27:57.089 You know. 1955 01:27:57.090 --> 01:27:58.229 There's a there's there's a lot of 1956 01:27:58.230 --> 01:28:00.359 that. So it's really incredible 1957 01:28:00.360 --> 01:28:02.969 to learn by piecing 1958 01:28:02.970 --> 01:28:03.539 everything. 1959 01:28:03.540 --> 01:28:04.859 You know, it's the postcards. 1960 01:28:04.860 --> 01:28:07.349 So any story I would have heard 1961 01:28:07.350 --> 01:28:09.209 because what was in my memory 1962 01:28:09.210 --> 01:28:10.409 to the gentleman that asked that 1963 01:28:10.410 --> 01:28:11.410 question. 1964 01:28:14.290 --> 01:28:16.629 We never really had these 1965 01:28:16.630 --> 01:28:18.579 the breakdown about the music 1966 01:28:18.580 --> 01:28:20.109 and the structure of the music and 1967 01:28:20.110 --> 01:28:21.340 technical level, 1968 01:28:23.350 --> 01:28:24.249 maybe. 1969 01:28:24.250 --> 01:28:26.079 So now I'm thinking about the 1970 01:28:26.080 --> 01:28:27.189 talk. We do see something. 1971 01:28:27.190 --> 01:28:29.769 Be This doesn't speak specifically 1972 01:28:29.770 --> 01:28:31.809 to John and Alice playing together, 1973 01:28:31.810 --> 01:28:33.469 but just the process. 1974 01:28:33.470 --> 01:28:35.499 And when when Cecil McBee 1975 01:28:35.500 --> 01:28:37.509 was talking about 1976 01:28:37.510 --> 01:28:38.889 playing the music that we were 1977 01:28:38.890 --> 01:28:40.359 talking about the Live at Carnegie 1978 01:28:40.360 --> 01:28:42.309 Hall concert, it reminded 1979 01:28:42.310 --> 01:28:44.409 me of an interview that he had done 1980 01:28:44.410 --> 01:28:45.549 for this book. 1981 01:28:45.550 --> 01:28:47.169 I think John Coltrane, The Quest for 1982 01:28:47.170 --> 01:28:48.429 Freedom. And there's a whole section 1983 01:28:48.430 --> 01:28:50.139 on your mom in that book. 1984 01:28:50.140 --> 01:28:51.999 And he would say, you know, 1985 01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:54.579 she would she didn't say play this 1986 01:28:54.580 --> 01:28:56.619 or play this this way, but 1987 01:28:56.620 --> 01:28:57.609 would sort of give a little 1988 01:28:57.610 --> 01:28:59.559 direction, light incense and 1989 01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:01.419 let let it happen. 1990 01:29:01.420 --> 01:29:03.519 That's a very important point. 1991 01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:05.349 Understand, as you say, she's 1992 01:29:05.350 --> 01:29:07.449 talking about freedom, freedom. 1993 01:29:07.450 --> 01:29:08.619 Let the music happen. 1994 01:29:08.620 --> 01:29:10.659 And when he said that and then 1995 01:29:10.660 --> 01:29:12.699 I heard the live at Carnegie Hall, 1996 01:29:12.700 --> 01:29:14.049 the journey and sat in under 1997 01:29:14.050 --> 01:29:15.639 baseline is different. 1998 01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:15.969 Yes. 1999 01:29:15.970 --> 01:29:17.589 Well, she. Because she let you find 2000 01:29:17.590 --> 01:29:19.659 it. I even my first 2001 01:29:19.660 --> 01:29:21.009 instrument was violin. 2002 01:29:21.010 --> 01:29:22.419 And I'm like nine years old. 2003 01:29:22.420 --> 01:29:23.709 And my mother is playing at Carnegie 2004 01:29:23.710 --> 01:29:25.209 Hall. And she goes, she brought me, 2005 01:29:25.210 --> 01:29:26.079 by the way, and she's going like 2006 01:29:26.080 --> 01:29:27.099 this. 2007 01:29:27.100 --> 01:29:28.929 And I'm like inching out 2008 01:29:28.930 --> 01:29:29.769 there, you know? 2009 01:29:29.770 --> 01:29:30.969 And she just said, Play. 2010 01:29:30.970 --> 01:29:32.919 And I'm like, you know, you're 2011 01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:34.929 taught da da da da da da da. 2012 01:29:34.930 --> 01:29:36.789 You know, it's like, play what I 2013 01:29:36.790 --> 01:29:37.869 know. And she would just keep 2014 01:29:37.870 --> 01:29:39.489 saying, think, think. 2015 01:29:40.540 --> 01:29:41.890 And that was even 2016 01:29:43.390 --> 01:29:45.249 the points that she was making about 2017 01:29:45.250 --> 01:29:46.119 free. 2018 01:29:46.120 --> 01:29:48.039 We heard Cecil McBee, who's still 2019 01:29:48.040 --> 01:29:50.109 living, Ron Carter 2020 01:29:50.110 --> 01:29:52.239 still living and spoke 2021 01:29:52.240 --> 01:29:54.219 to this 2022 01:29:54.220 --> 01:29:56.199 concept of 2023 01:29:56.200 --> 01:29:58.389 here's the idea of the song. 2024 01:29:58.390 --> 01:30:00.069 And she said they just went in and 2025 01:30:00.070 --> 01:30:01.899 played. So Pharaoh 2026 01:30:01.900 --> 01:30:03.819 definitely was a part of that era. 2027 01:30:03.820 --> 01:30:06.249 Yeah. And we because we're like 2028 01:30:06.250 --> 01:30:08.199 in love with this music we 2029 01:30:08.200 --> 01:30:09.969 hold on to every moment. 2030 01:30:09.970 --> 01:30:11.349 So the first time I played with 2031 01:30:11.350 --> 01:30:13.539 Pharoah Sanders, I said, Well, 2032 01:30:13.540 --> 01:30:16.489 you remember Remember Blue Nile? 2033 01:30:16.490 --> 01:30:17.490 He was like, What? 2034 01:30:19.450 --> 01:30:21.609 And and I was just like, okay, 2035 01:30:21.610 --> 01:30:23.389 so this hasn't been his whole world. 2036 01:30:23.390 --> 01:30:25.779 Like it was my world. 2037 01:30:27.730 --> 01:30:29.919 So they just have these these really 2038 01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:31.739 special moments together. 2039 01:30:31.740 --> 01:30:33.039 That was the late 60. 2040 01:30:33.040 --> 01:30:34.299 That was a long time ago. 2041 01:30:34.300 --> 01:30:35.289 Here I come. 2042 01:30:35.290 --> 01:30:36.759 How many years later? 2043 01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:37.760 Remember that one? 2044 01:30:41.890 --> 01:30:43.600 But the whole freedom thing. 2045 01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:46.239 Just working with your brother for 2046 01:30:46.240 --> 01:30:48.189 so many years, since 2007. 2047 01:30:48.190 --> 01:30:49.749 I've been working with him since the 2048 01:30:49.750 --> 01:30:50.949 memorial. 2049 01:30:50.950 --> 01:30:51.909 His whole approach. 2050 01:30:51.910 --> 01:30:53.649 You know, I'm classical training and 2051 01:30:53.650 --> 01:30:54.999 I'm, like, in the studio, Would you 2052 01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:56.799 like these chords rolled flat or 2053 01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:57.849 arpeggiated? 2054 01:30:57.850 --> 01:30:59.560 And it was looking at me like, What? 2055 01:31:00.820 --> 01:31:02.289 Because I need direction. 2056 01:31:02.290 --> 01:31:03.789 When you're in classical music that 2057 01:31:03.790 --> 01:31:05.259 you play this this way, phrase it 2058 01:31:05.260 --> 01:31:07.269 this way, play this part, this 2059 01:31:07.270 --> 01:31:08.769 loud, this part, this soft. 2060 01:31:08.770 --> 01:31:10.899 So being 2061 01:31:10.900 --> 01:31:12.759 it's. It's challenging. 2062 01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:13.929 It's liberating, but it's 2063 01:31:13.930 --> 01:31:15.129 challenging because then you're 2064 01:31:15.130 --> 01:31:16.509 forced to think for yourself. 2065 01:31:16.510 --> 01:31:17.649 Risk and reward. 2066 01:31:17.650 --> 01:31:19.089 Yeah. 2067 01:31:19.090 --> 01:31:20.329 Yeah. I like. 2068 01:31:20.330 --> 01:31:21.399 Could you just point me in a 2069 01:31:21.400 --> 01:31:22.400 direction? 2070 01:31:25.570 --> 01:31:27.189 Can we take an answer from this side 2071 01:31:27.190 --> 01:31:28.179 of the room? 2072 01:31:28.180 --> 01:31:29.589 There you go. 2073 01:31:29.590 --> 01:31:32.379 My question to both of you is, 2074 01:31:32.380 --> 01:31:34.509 y'all sound so beautiful together. 2075 01:31:34.510 --> 01:31:36.819 Do you have music now 2076 01:31:36.820 --> 01:31:38.619 or you have in the works? 2077 01:31:38.620 --> 01:31:40.539 Y'all doing some more music 2078 01:31:40.540 --> 01:31:42.759 together and 2079 01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:45.039 some of the others of the family 2080 01:31:45.040 --> 01:31:47.259 to carry on keep doing 2081 01:31:47.260 --> 01:31:48.490 this music? 2082 01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:51.519 Well, this is, I feel like shameless 2083 01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:53.589 plug part, but but 2084 01:31:53.590 --> 01:31:55.419 yeah, we 2085 01:31:55.420 --> 01:31:57.309 we've worked together in 2086 01:31:57.310 --> 01:31:59.259 very special situations, like 2087 01:31:59.260 --> 01:32:00.789 with Terri Lynn Carrington. 2088 01:32:02.060 --> 01:32:03.249 Well, the John and Alice Coltrane 2089 01:32:03.250 --> 01:32:04.629 Festival in North Carolina a couple 2090 01:32:04.630 --> 01:32:06.189 of times. 2091 01:32:06.190 --> 01:32:08.289 My my brother we should try to share 2092 01:32:08.290 --> 01:32:10.179 Brandee. And she has her own career 2093 01:32:10.180 --> 01:32:12.219 goals, her own original music 2094 01:32:12.220 --> 01:32:13.239 that she writes. 2095 01:32:13.240 --> 01:32:14.389 But then she does play. 2096 01:32:14.390 --> 01:32:15.969 She's playing with Ravi, too. 2097 01:32:15.970 --> 01:32:17.199 Mama Berkley. 2098 01:32:17.200 --> 01:32:18.489 But 20s. 2099 01:32:18.490 --> 01:32:20.439 Yeah. So I'm lucky to 2100 01:32:20.440 --> 01:32:22.329 have the opportunity to share 2101 01:32:22.330 --> 01:32:24.369 this part of my mother's 2102 01:32:24.370 --> 01:32:25.779 legacy, my parents legacy. 2103 01:32:25.780 --> 01:32:27.609 And she has the harp 2104 01:32:27.610 --> 01:32:29.589 in New York now, and we're 2105 01:32:29.590 --> 01:32:32.229 waiting for her music to be recorded 2106 01:32:32.230 --> 01:32:33.159 on that harp. 2107 01:32:33.160 --> 01:32:34.149 Did it come out. 2108 01:32:34.150 --> 01:32:36.039 In G 11 D or they call it 2109 01:32:36.040 --> 01:32:36.639 the 11. 2110 01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:37.539 Over 11? 2111 01:32:37.540 --> 01:32:39.669 Yeah. Yeah, but 2112 01:32:39.670 --> 01:32:41.349 but you were playing a show, aren't 2113 01:32:41.350 --> 01:32:43.179 you? Russ said you have a 2114 01:32:43.180 --> 01:32:44.979 show coming up. 2115 01:32:44.980 --> 01:32:45.729 I do. 2116 01:32:45.730 --> 01:32:46.239 Now. 2117 01:32:46.240 --> 01:32:47.589 We do. 2118 01:32:47.590 --> 01:32:49.509 I had been because of the 2119 01:32:49.510 --> 01:32:50.349 Year of Alice. 2120 01:32:50.350 --> 01:32:51.350 I had been, 2121 01:32:52.330 --> 01:32:53.709 you know, working to get they 2122 01:32:53.710 --> 01:32:55.599 weren't lyricists, but 2123 01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:57.159 the devotional music did have 2124 01:32:57.160 --> 01:32:59.169 lyrics. So 2125 01:32:59.170 --> 01:33:00.999 we've I've learned to kind of weave 2126 01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:03.339 that into a jazz quartet 2127 01:33:03.340 --> 01:33:05.529 situation where I 2128 01:33:05.530 --> 01:33:07.899 am singing See Tehran, Amazing 2129 01:33:08.980 --> 01:33:10.419 Journey and such an and 2130 01:33:12.230 --> 01:33:13.959 we kind of do it like a little 2131 01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:14.829 spoken word. 2132 01:33:14.830 --> 01:33:16.389 We just try to play off of it. 2133 01:33:16.390 --> 01:33:17.919 And that was to be in tribute for 2134 01:33:17.920 --> 01:33:19.689 the events that were happening for 2135 01:33:19.690 --> 01:33:21.159 the year. Alice. 2136 01:33:21.160 --> 01:33:22.689 And then I did write some lyrics to 2137 01:33:22.690 --> 01:33:24.399 Moment's notice as a John Coltrane 2138 01:33:24.400 --> 01:33:25.689 piece. There's my favorite. 2139 01:33:25.690 --> 01:33:27.459 Thing to have a show coming up soon. 2140 01:33:28.990 --> 01:33:30.739 Here this Sunday. 2141 01:33:30.740 --> 01:33:31.709 Yea. 2142 01:33:31.710 --> 01:33:32.710 Duh. 2143 01:33:35.650 --> 01:33:36.609 Yea. Yea. 2144 01:33:36.610 --> 01:33:37.429 5:00. 2145 01:33:37.430 --> 01:33:37.659 Yeah. 2146 01:33:37.660 --> 01:33:39.159 Thank you. 2147 01:33:39.160 --> 01:33:40.160 I'm just six. 2148 01:33:43.060 --> 01:33:44.889 I won't be alone. 2149 01:33:44.890 --> 01:33:46.269 I won't be here for that because 2150 01:33:46.270 --> 01:33:48.219 Ravi is kidnaping me for a 2151 01:33:48.220 --> 01:33:49.239 tour. 2152 01:33:49.240 --> 01:33:51.569 I am playing at the Sun Rose March 2153 01:33:51.570 --> 01:33:53.379 26th with my trio, where we're 2154 01:33:53.380 --> 01:33:55.089 always doing some Alice Coltrane 2155 01:33:55.090 --> 01:33:57.639 music. But maybe you are birthing 2156 01:33:57.640 --> 01:33:59.020 a record in the future. 2157 01:34:01.810 --> 01:34:03.849 That would be so cool. 2158 01:34:03.850 --> 01:34:05.109 Yeah. 2159 01:34:05.110 --> 01:34:06.399 Frannie plays Alice. 2160 01:34:07.870 --> 01:34:09.249 Mixtape. 2161 01:34:09.250 --> 01:34:10.250 Mixtape. 2162 01:34:12.750 --> 01:34:14.009 I think. 2163 01:34:14.010 --> 01:34:15.959 So one more question and then two 2164 01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:16.889 more questions. Is that what you're 2165 01:34:16.890 --> 01:34:17.729 saying already? 2166 01:34:17.730 --> 01:34:19.199 Well, I see. I see one right in 2167 01:34:19.200 --> 01:34:19.919 front of me. 2168 01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:21.869 Okay, let's do 2169 01:34:21.870 --> 01:34:23.399 that. One last question and then I 2170 01:34:23.400 --> 01:34:25.229 think I'd like to invite you all to 2171 01:34:25.230 --> 01:34:26.609 join us for some coffee, tea and 2172 01:34:26.610 --> 01:34:28.259 cookies out in the theater lobby. 2173 01:34:28.260 --> 01:34:30.059 I know there's a lot of members of 2174 01:34:30.060 --> 01:34:32.099 the ashram here and a lot of family 2175 01:34:32.100 --> 01:34:33.089 members, so I think it'll be a 2176 01:34:33.090 --> 01:34:34.979 wonderful opportunity for everybody 2177 01:34:34.980 --> 01:34:36.179 to get together and say hello and 2178 01:34:36.180 --> 01:34:37.859 let's take the last question. 2179 01:34:37.860 --> 01:34:38.609 Okay. I love. 2180 01:34:38.610 --> 01:34:39.059 Your shirt. 2181 01:34:39.060 --> 01:34:41.009 I think two people have a mike, 2182 01:34:41.010 --> 01:34:42.959 but I will go ahead and slide 2183 01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:43.529 in. 2184 01:34:43.530 --> 01:34:43.889 Thanks. 2185 01:34:43.890 --> 01:34:45.600 Since we've heard from a lot of men. 2186 01:34:50.910 --> 01:34:52.079 Come on now. 2187 01:34:52.080 --> 01:34:53.080 We're here for a reason. 2188 01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:56.009 My name is Amber 2189 01:34:56.010 --> 01:34:58.229 and one I just want to say 2190 01:34:58.230 --> 01:34:59.039 your song. 2191 01:34:59.040 --> 01:35:00.119 Brand New Life. 2192 01:35:01.160 --> 01:35:03.019 Just was 2193 01:35:03.020 --> 01:35:05.599 on repeat for me last year. 2194 01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:07.249 It was my entry point to your work, 2195 01:35:07.250 --> 01:35:09.379 so I feel very honored 2196 01:35:09.380 --> 01:35:11.119 to have heard you play today. 2197 01:35:13.610 --> 01:35:15.319 I was here with Black Girl in art 2198 01:35:15.320 --> 01:35:17.329 Spaces, and there was just 2199 01:35:17.330 --> 01:35:19.699 a moment with seeing 2200 01:35:19.700 --> 01:35:21.919 all of these black women 2201 01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:25.099 amongst these huge images 2202 01:35:25.100 --> 01:35:28.289 of Alice that was just like. 2203 01:35:28.290 --> 01:35:30.959 So rewarding to. 2204 01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:32.789 I'm grateful that she has this 2205 01:35:32.790 --> 01:35:34.799 family that has kept 2206 01:35:34.800 --> 01:35:36.899 her archive for us 2207 01:35:36.900 --> 01:35:39.449 to experience in this time. 2208 01:35:39.450 --> 01:35:41.549 And knowing of your 2209 01:35:41.550 --> 01:35:44.009 work and Dorothy Ashby. 2210 01:35:44.010 --> 01:35:45.959 Alice and there 2211 01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:48.269 is another black woman 2212 01:35:48.270 --> 01:35:50.579 who played with Carla 2213 01:35:50.580 --> 01:35:52.769 on NPR's Tiny Desk. 2214 01:35:52.770 --> 01:35:54.809 There's like four of you all that 2215 01:35:54.810 --> 01:35:56.219 we know of. 2216 01:35:56.220 --> 01:35:58.679 I wonder how 2217 01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:00.569 this experience, especially 2218 01:36:00.570 --> 01:36:02.489 being able to go through 2219 01:36:02.490 --> 01:36:04.589 the exhibit in your relationship 2220 01:36:04.590 --> 01:36:07.139 with the family, is 2221 01:36:07.140 --> 01:36:10.049 having you think about your archive 2222 01:36:10.050 --> 01:36:11.939 and the work that you 2223 01:36:11.940 --> 01:36:14.219 are passing down. 2224 01:36:14.220 --> 01:36:16.529 For us to be able to 2225 01:36:16.530 --> 01:36:19.409 care for these folks that will come. 2226 01:36:19.410 --> 01:36:21.599 After us as well. 2227 01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:22.600 Who 2228 01:36:24.490 --> 01:36:26.340 That was a good, educated question. 2229 01:36:27.450 --> 01:36:29.310 First of all, thank you. 2230 01:36:30.390 --> 01:36:31.769 I'm going to just note that that 2231 01:36:31.770 --> 01:36:34.139 song, Brand New Life I 2232 01:36:34.140 --> 01:36:36.269 it was how I was talking about how 2233 01:36:36.270 --> 01:36:37.859 Coltrane's music was just has its 2234 01:36:37.860 --> 01:36:39.419 authentic quality. 2235 01:36:39.420 --> 01:36:41.489 That was a case where 2236 01:36:41.490 --> 01:36:43.289 I didn't sit down and like, okay, I 2237 01:36:43.290 --> 01:36:44.459 got to write something. 2238 01:36:44.460 --> 01:36:46.469 It just came out that 2239 01:36:46.470 --> 01:36:48.389 particular song, it just came out. 2240 01:36:48.390 --> 01:36:50.789 And then asking mumu fresh 2241 01:36:50.790 --> 01:36:51.569 to write over it. 2242 01:36:51.570 --> 01:36:53.189 She wrote it for her little brother 2243 01:36:53.190 --> 01:36:54.629 who had just passed away. 2244 01:36:54.630 --> 01:36:55.539 And it just came. 2245 01:36:55.540 --> 01:36:57.509 It was the most authentic thing, 2246 01:36:57.510 --> 01:37:00.269 you know. So it's 2247 01:37:00.270 --> 01:37:02.069 I don't know. I just try to keep it 2248 01:37:02.070 --> 01:37:03.439 real. 2249 01:37:03.440 --> 01:37:04.440 Really? 2250 01:37:05.040 --> 01:37:05.939 Not like a rapper. 2251 01:37:05.940 --> 01:37:07.789 Keep it real friendly, you 2252 01:37:07.790 --> 01:37:08.969 know. 2253 01:37:08.970 --> 01:37:11.009 But, you know, so like I mentioned 2254 01:37:11.010 --> 01:37:12.509 earlier, when I was younger, there 2255 01:37:12.510 --> 01:37:14.439 weren't many black harpists around. 2256 01:37:14.440 --> 01:37:15.599 You know, of course, we had an 2257 01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:17.279 Hobson pilot who was the first 2258 01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:20.579 black member of the Boston Symphony. 2259 01:37:20.580 --> 01:37:22.649 She was like the 2260 01:37:22.650 --> 01:37:23.789 the model, you know. 2261 01:37:23.790 --> 01:37:25.019 And then we knew of her. 2262 01:37:25.020 --> 01:37:26.939 We knew of Dorothy Ashby, you knew 2263 01:37:26.940 --> 01:37:28.379 of Alice Coltrane. 2264 01:37:28.380 --> 01:37:30.269 And then as the Internet 2265 01:37:30.270 --> 01:37:31.169 household. 2266 01:37:31.170 --> 01:37:33.059 But as the Internet started to 2267 01:37:33.060 --> 01:37:34.680 I mean, I'm not old, but 2268 01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:37.919 I wasn't born with the Internet. 2269 01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:39.869 And then and then when people 2270 01:37:39.870 --> 01:37:42.059 got computers, you mean little money 2271 01:37:42.060 --> 01:37:43.319 who so, 2272 01:37:44.970 --> 01:37:46.799 you know, start to do some digging 2273 01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:48.689 and you'll you'd find it. 2274 01:37:48.690 --> 01:37:50.549 My family friend, a 2275 01:37:50.550 --> 01:37:52.529 woman that's like family to me. 2276 01:37:52.530 --> 01:37:54.449 My my grandmother came 2277 01:37:54.450 --> 01:37:56.339 up from the south 2278 01:37:56.340 --> 01:37:58.919 when she was like 1917 2279 01:37:58.920 --> 01:38:00.509 or something, maybe 19, 2020s, not 2280 01:38:00.510 --> 01:38:02.609 that old and 2281 01:38:02.610 --> 01:38:03.659 lived in this home. 2282 01:38:03.660 --> 01:38:05.579 And my grandmother I 2283 01:38:05.580 --> 01:38:07.049 used I know a little girl who played 2284 01:38:07.050 --> 01:38:08.159 harp. And I'm like, Man, I don't 2285 01:38:08.160 --> 01:38:09.959 know what you're talking about. 2286 01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:11.849 And she's 2287 01:38:11.850 --> 01:38:13.199 still alive. Her name is Sarah 2288 01:38:13.200 --> 01:38:14.549 Lawrence. She lives in Altadena. 2289 01:38:14.550 --> 01:38:16.379 I was over her house this morning. 2290 01:38:16.380 --> 01:38:17.909 She has one of Dorothy Ashby's 2291 01:38:17.910 --> 01:38:20.129 harps. And, you know, so I started 2292 01:38:20.130 --> 01:38:21.989 to just learn more and more 2293 01:38:21.990 --> 01:38:24.029 of more, find more black 2294 01:38:24.030 --> 01:38:26.039 harpists. I'm Tony Robinson Bogart, 2295 01:38:26.040 --> 01:38:27.959 who I think Alice Coltrane 2296 01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:29.399 referred her to you, Robert. 2297 01:38:29.400 --> 01:38:30.400 Right. 2298 01:38:32.950 --> 01:38:34.209 Is that right? His voice. 2299 01:38:34.210 --> 01:38:35.199 Yeah, this is Rhonda. 2300 01:38:35.200 --> 01:38:36.519 But if ACMA. 2301 01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:37.520 Couldn't see her, it could. 2302 01:39:00.400 --> 01:39:01.699 Schoolteacher. 2303 01:39:01.700 --> 01:39:02.700 Yeah. 2304 01:39:04.750 --> 01:39:06.339 She had to take a job as a middle 2305 01:39:06.340 --> 01:39:08.229 school teacher and then, like, do 2306 01:39:08.230 --> 01:39:11.079 the whole summers and Vegas gig. 2307 01:39:11.080 --> 01:39:12.639 And so she became, like, the 2308 01:39:12.640 --> 01:39:13.629 original O.G. 2309 01:39:13.630 --> 01:39:15.549 for I would drag other harpists over 2310 01:39:15.550 --> 01:39:17.469 to her so that we can all just sit 2311 01:39:17.470 --> 01:39:19.059 and have a group lesson at her 2312 01:39:19.060 --> 01:39:19.869 house. 2313 01:39:19.870 --> 01:39:21.729 And she was very, very giving. 2314 01:39:21.730 --> 01:39:22.579 Yeah. Thank you. 2315 01:39:22.580 --> 01:39:24.519 Speak. So there are the OGs 2316 01:39:24.520 --> 01:39:25.659 like that. 2317 01:39:25.660 --> 01:39:27.879 But as I got older 2318 01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:29.859 and all these school programs like 2319 01:39:29.860 --> 01:39:31.569 Cass Tech, which was the first, they 2320 01:39:31.570 --> 01:39:32.679 had the longest standing heart 2321 01:39:32.680 --> 01:39:34.239 program to United States. 2322 01:39:34.240 --> 01:39:35.109 And, you know, most of those 2323 01:39:35.110 --> 01:39:37.629 students, most of those harpswell, 2324 01:39:37.630 --> 01:39:39.279 most of the students now are black 2325 01:39:39.280 --> 01:39:40.899 and Hispanic. All of them are. 2326 01:39:40.900 --> 01:39:42.489 But back then, it was more mixed. 2327 01:39:42.490 --> 01:39:44.889 Dorothy Ashby went there, so many 2328 01:39:44.890 --> 01:39:45.969 black harpists went there. 2329 01:39:45.970 --> 01:39:47.079 But that was the only program. 2330 01:39:47.080 --> 01:39:48.279 But now there are programs in 2331 01:39:48.280 --> 01:39:50.229 Jersey, in Philly, in 2332 01:39:50.230 --> 01:39:51.939 in Florida, so many places. 2333 01:39:51.940 --> 01:39:53.679 So these students have grown up and 2334 01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:54.759 a lot of them become professional 2335 01:39:54.760 --> 01:39:56.679 harpist. So I taught I 2336 01:39:56.680 --> 01:39:57.939 who you were talking about, who did 2337 01:39:57.940 --> 01:39:59.559 the Tiny desk with Khalilah. 2338 01:39:59.560 --> 01:40:01.569 So seeing so 2339 01:40:01.570 --> 01:40:03.399 many harpists 2340 01:40:03.400 --> 01:40:05.289 now that are black not only 2341 01:40:05.290 --> 01:40:07.419 makes me feel old, but it makes 2342 01:40:07.420 --> 01:40:09.399 me feel really proud. 2343 01:40:09.400 --> 01:40:11.169 And thinking about the legacy is 2344 01:40:11.170 --> 01:40:12.429 something I never thought about 2345 01:40:12.430 --> 01:40:13.599 because I always thought of myself 2346 01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:15.039 as a 12 year old. I'm a kid. 2347 01:40:15.040 --> 01:40:15.909 I'm a kid. I'm a kid. 2348 01:40:15.910 --> 01:40:17.739 But then with 2349 01:40:17.740 --> 01:40:19.959 having such having 2350 01:40:19.960 --> 01:40:21.939 like the access 2351 01:40:21.940 --> 01:40:23.949 to Alice Coltrane's 2352 01:40:23.950 --> 01:40:26.259 harp, Dorothy Ashby's harp, and 2353 01:40:26.260 --> 01:40:28.239 not just her harp, her 2354 01:40:28.240 --> 01:40:30.129 things, her archives, photos, 2355 01:40:30.130 --> 01:40:32.289 journals, all this stuff I 2356 01:40:32.290 --> 01:40:33.729 had to start thinking about. 2357 01:40:33.730 --> 01:40:35.919 Okay, what about when I'm dead? 2358 01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:37.359 What am I going to do with all this 2359 01:40:37.360 --> 01:40:39.219 stuff? Where am I going to leave it, 2360 01:40:39.220 --> 01:40:40.599 you know? Does it go to the harp 2361 01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:42.729 archives, the Harp Society 2362 01:40:42.730 --> 01:40:44.289 archives, or do they deserve it? 2363 01:40:44.290 --> 01:40:45.309 Do they appreciate it? 2364 01:40:45.310 --> 01:40:47.199 And thinking about, you know, 2365 01:40:47.200 --> 01:40:48.399 it's something that I've been 2366 01:40:48.400 --> 01:40:50.289 thinking about heavy lately, where 2367 01:40:50.290 --> 01:40:51.879 that stuff will live, who who will 2368 01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:53.109 appreciate it? 2369 01:40:53.110 --> 01:40:54.399 Thinking about the house, the 2370 01:40:54.400 --> 01:40:56.499 Coltrane home, its youth, 2371 01:40:56.500 --> 01:40:58.090 and their newest board member. 2372 01:41:00.610 --> 01:41:02.709 And instruments should be played 2373 01:41:02.710 --> 01:41:03.489 and not. 2374 01:41:03.490 --> 01:41:05.379 I love a museum, but they 2375 01:41:05.380 --> 01:41:07.359 should be played, you know so it's 2376 01:41:07.360 --> 01:41:09.999 it's it's it's an ongoing 2377 01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:11.859 it's an ongoing 2378 01:41:11.860 --> 01:41:13.809 process. So if you got ideas because 2379 01:41:13.810 --> 01:41:15.089 I like your question you know you 2380 01:41:15.090 --> 01:41:16.720 can talk later 2381 01:41:17.830 --> 01:41:19.599 but I know that Claudia said one 2382 01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:21.339 more question but you did have a 2383 01:41:21.340 --> 01:41:22.340 microphone. 2384 01:41:23.800 --> 01:41:26.019 I can't believe you. 2385 01:41:26.020 --> 01:41:27.199 What an honor. 2386 01:41:27.200 --> 01:41:28.479 Well, thank you for your 2387 01:41:28.480 --> 01:41:31.269 contributions this evening and 2388 01:41:31.270 --> 01:41:33.339 for preserving the legacy of John 2389 01:41:33.340 --> 01:41:35.079 and Alice Coltrane. 2390 01:41:35.080 --> 01:41:37.029 I want to ask you about. 2391 01:41:39.880 --> 01:41:41.649 Or at least share with you what to 2392 01:41:41.650 --> 01:41:44.079 me because the music so distinct 2393 01:41:44.080 --> 01:41:45.939 and powerful and it's that in 2394 01:41:45.940 --> 01:41:47.859 their playing they seem 2395 01:41:47.860 --> 01:41:49.479 to be totally consumed. 2396 01:41:49.480 --> 01:41:52.509 And I'm wondering. 2397 01:41:52.510 --> 01:41:54.249 When I listen to the two of them in 2398 01:41:54.250 --> 01:41:55.809 what ways they might have influenced 2399 01:41:55.810 --> 01:41:57.789 and pushed or challenged or 2400 01:41:57.790 --> 01:42:00.159 inspired each other musically 2401 01:42:00.160 --> 01:42:01.779 and spiritually. 2402 01:42:01.780 --> 01:42:03.279 And I'm thinking about those 2403 01:42:03.280 --> 01:42:05.289 intimate moments in the home 2404 01:42:05.290 --> 01:42:07.389 or on walks 2405 01:42:07.390 --> 01:42:09.249 or in the kitchen and what 2406 01:42:09.250 --> 01:42:10.359 might have been shared between the 2407 01:42:10.360 --> 01:42:11.360 two of them 2408 01:42:12.580 --> 01:42:14.499 and things that we might not 2409 01:42:14.500 --> 01:42:16.389 encounter in books or 2410 01:42:16.390 --> 01:42:17.390 media. 2411 01:42:18.400 --> 01:42:19.809 I don't think any of us were there 2412 01:42:19.810 --> 01:42:20.889 during those moments. 2413 01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:24.249 But I have my own stories 2414 01:42:24.250 --> 01:42:25.659 and my own narratives that I've made 2415 01:42:25.660 --> 01:42:27.519 up. And one 2416 01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:29.709 is like, so Alice 2417 01:42:29.710 --> 01:42:32.709 Coltrane, harp, piano playing, 2418 01:42:32.710 --> 01:42:34.149 very harpist. 2419 01:42:34.150 --> 01:42:36.129 I don't know if that's a word, but 2420 01:42:36.130 --> 01:42:37.329 it's very hard plastic. 2421 01:42:37.330 --> 01:42:38.799 And I'm like, You know what? 2422 01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:40.179 John Coltrane love himself some 2423 01:42:40.180 --> 01:42:40.959 heart. 2424 01:42:40.960 --> 01:42:42.879 So and you 2425 01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:45.119 know, the whole they 2426 01:42:45.120 --> 01:42:46.869 said he would practice harp, 2427 01:42:46.870 --> 01:42:49.029 glissando and whatnot. 2428 01:42:49.030 --> 01:42:50.949 So I think that he was 2429 01:42:50.950 --> 01:42:53.349 very much inspired by your mama. 2430 01:42:53.350 --> 01:42:53.769 And when. 2431 01:42:53.770 --> 01:42:55.809 Someone gives you a harp. 2432 01:42:55.810 --> 01:42:56.679 A gold, I mean. 2433 01:42:56.680 --> 01:42:58.419 That's. That's true love, okay? 2434 01:42:58.420 --> 01:42:59.420 I mean, for real. 2435 01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:01.760 The thing. Spray paint. 2436 01:43:03.040 --> 01:43:05.379 It's real cool, actually, 2437 01:43:05.380 --> 01:43:06.009 I. 2438 01:43:06.010 --> 01:43:06.939 Yeah, she's. 2439 01:43:06.940 --> 01:43:07.779 She's. 2440 01:43:07.780 --> 01:43:08.679 Isn't she cute? 2441 01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:10.599 She's, she's got, she's, she does. 2442 01:43:10.600 --> 01:43:12.370 It's such a serious works 2443 01:43:13.540 --> 01:43:15.459 and then she has this comedic side 2444 01:43:15.460 --> 01:43:17.680 to her is just lovely and adorable. 2445 01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:20.949 You know I, I had a 2446 01:43:20.950 --> 01:43:21.759 great childhood. 2447 01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:23.770 It was going so well, you know, 2448 01:43:25.150 --> 01:43:27.519 and my mother did not know. 2449 01:43:27.520 --> 01:43:29.289 She she was she was a kind of 2450 01:43:29.290 --> 01:43:30.639 different person, too. 2451 01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:32.139 They were quiet, both of them. 2452 01:43:33.280 --> 01:43:34.439 They didn't talk a lot. 2453 01:43:34.440 --> 01:43:36.309 My mother said it was just like 2454 01:43:36.310 --> 01:43:38.259 she's in the Blue Note and she's 2455 01:43:38.260 --> 01:43:40.209 like, a female pianist is there. 2456 01:43:40.210 --> 01:43:42.129 This is the the the them 2457 01:43:42.130 --> 01:43:43.299 in the 60s. 2458 01:43:43.300 --> 01:43:45.159 And he goes by and 2459 01:43:45.160 --> 01:43:46.359 plays like. 2460 01:43:46.360 --> 01:43:48.319 Well ba ba ba ba ba ba ba 2461 01:43:48.320 --> 01:43:50.139 ba ba ba ba. 2462 01:43:50.140 --> 01:43:51.969 Yeah. I kept walking by, you 2463 01:43:51.970 --> 01:43:54.009 know, and then they start 2464 01:43:54.010 --> 01:43:55.869 talking about 2465 01:43:55.870 --> 01:43:58.719 knows astronomy or something 2466 01:43:58.720 --> 01:44:00.669 or books and you know, then it's 2467 01:44:00.670 --> 01:44:02.679 like these to kind of 2468 01:44:02.680 --> 01:44:03.680 like. 2469 01:44:04.240 --> 01:44:06.489 Cut from the same cloth, but from, 2470 01:44:06.490 --> 01:44:07.490 you know, different. 2471 01:44:09.920 --> 01:44:11.149 You know, he was from the south. 2472 01:44:11.150 --> 01:44:12.890 My mom was born in Detroit, 2473 01:44:14.090 --> 01:44:15.679 and they immediately got together 2474 01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:16.699 and he had a. There would have been 2475 01:44:16.700 --> 01:44:18.890 so many kids in our family. 2476 01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:23.449 But what's incredible is that she 2477 01:44:23.450 --> 01:44:25.579 knew right away because she she quit 2478 01:44:25.580 --> 01:44:27.439 Terry Gibbs, bam, abruptly, like 2479 01:44:27.440 --> 01:44:29.299 she knew, you know, you 2480 01:44:29.300 --> 01:44:30.739 know me, I'd be like, well, I want 2481 01:44:30.740 --> 01:44:32.029 to quit the band. I have a gig. 2482 01:44:33.200 --> 01:44:34.699 I have a gig, you know. 2483 01:44:38.850 --> 01:44:40.799 Thank you for that thing. 2484 01:44:40.800 --> 01:44:41.909 Why should it? 2485 01:44:41.910 --> 01:44:43.499 It makes my mind spin. 2486 01:44:43.500 --> 01:44:45.269 And then, you know, you get to kind 2487 01:44:45.270 --> 01:44:47.279 of relive my my 2488 01:44:47.280 --> 01:44:49.469 life and not in 2489 01:44:49.470 --> 01:44:51.419 the sorrowful moments are 2490 01:44:51.420 --> 01:44:53.489 just become moments. 2491 01:44:53.490 --> 01:44:55.289 And everything wasn't bad. 2492 01:44:55.290 --> 01:44:56.999 Everything isn't good. 2493 01:44:57.000 --> 01:44:58.619 It's been a beautiful journey. 2494 01:44:58.620 --> 01:45:00.479 And we appreciate 2495 01:45:00.480 --> 01:45:02.099 you all very much. 2496 01:45:02.100 --> 01:45:03.100 Thank you.